[Football] Graham Potter will go to Man United

[Simster]

I do believe that Potter would get a tune out of Man Utd much earlier than he did with us. I suspect his methods are much easier to implement when you've got strikers who take their chances. He was very unlucky in his second season with us in that I've never seen the levels of profligacy in front of goal as we showed. Routine finishing would have had us comfortably top half. Anyway, players who score most chances cost a fortune, but that's not a problem for Man Utd.

For all that, if as @Kinky Gerbil says, Man Utd are busy renewing contracts of dogshit and troublesome players, then it doesn't matter who's in charge - they'll still be shite.

 

[GloryDays]

Said it before, but I reckon Newcastle is his next stop. Howe has a lot of credit in the bank, but they are struggling at the moment and if they lose to Sunderland tomorrow and then lose their next two to Man City and Villa, he will be in trouble. I would have thought Ashworth would be all over Potter if that were to happen.

This is also a good point. Depends if he has any soul at all. After Chelsea he might just be tired of everyone wanting him to lose. But it's possible.

 

[JBizzle]

I think no matter what move he makes it will be career defining. He's sorted for life thanks to his stint at Chelsea. The best move he can make is to sign with as high profile a club as possible - so United is the perfect fit.

I've though this was nailed on since the summer to be honest and a matter of when, not if. I could be wrong of course. The one glaring issue that doesn't sit right with me is Old Trafford. It's a bloody corrugated morgue and Potter seems to love a new build. This could just be a coincidence.

If he went to Utd I would love to see him do well. I like Potter. I f***ing hate Chelsea. It's a big, big shame he did that. Very dirty move. But what's the point in him going to Utd and failing? No one wins here. I'd love to see why we rated him so highly working out at Utd. I honestly think with more time at Chelsea he would have done well. Not forgetting he was sacked while in the UCL knockouts.

Chelsea was both a) the absolute wrong move for a manager of his style to take, and b) nigh on impossible for a manager with ambition to turn down. Big club, big money, big budget but complete basket case of a club under Boehly. Going to Man United would be different: big club, big money, big budget but complete basket case of a club under the Glazers..... Ah..... People forget is that Ratcliffe is still only a minority stakeholder

Boehly was making all the same noises that Ratcliffe is about building for the future, giving managers time etc etc but if it goes badly and the fans turn on the ownership after some poor results, the same old story will come to the fore: Bin the boss.

 

[Wozza]

Would be a bonkers move, for all concerned.

Needs to prove himself/win something (abroad?) to get respect of players/fans.

Fans of big six clubs have high expectations and zero patience. That's going to rub off on the players. Even a modest bad run creates a shitstorm.

 

[timbha]

Strongly suspect he’ll be the next manager there.
Long term project, uses same vocabulary as Brailsford in setting goals and understanding people. He’s also shapeable and containable by the new part ownership.

Just a case of when for me.

What makes you think the players ant Man U with attitude (Rashford, etc) won’t treat Potter the same way that Sterling, etc treated him? ie who is this Potter, what’s he ever won, what’s he gonna teach me and why should I play for him?

 

[portslade seagull]

Their welcome to him the soul selling mercenary.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I always thought that GP did a great job here, changing the style of play whilst maintaining our position in the Premier league and then pushing on.

However, having seen what RDZ has achieved with the same backing from TBOBE, PBMBE, the recruitment team and the backroom staff in a far shorter timeframe does have me questioning how much of the success was down to GP and how much was down to an exceptionally well run club that he was working for.

I guess following his stint at Chelsea with another at United would give more insight into that question

 

[indy3050]

I think he’ll do ok there should he go! Nobody could have dealt with the influx of players he had to deal with at Chelsea, it was absolutely ridiculous. I am obviously THRILLED that he failed though, due to his disrespectful behaviour towards Tony and his team.

 

[Simster]

I always thought that GP did a great job here, changing the style of play whilst maintaining our position in the Premier league and then pushing on.

However, having seen what RDZ has achieved with the same backing from TBOBE, PBMBE, the recruitment team and the backroom staff in a far shorter timeframe does have me questioning how much of the success was down to GP and how much was down to an exceptionally well run club that he was working for.

I guess following his stint at Chelsea with another at United would give more insight into that question

Well Sir Chris Hughton had the same people in the club yet the football under him was shockingly bad in his final 6 months. Potter took that same personnel and got us playing some very watchable football and by the time he left, we looked pretty much as good as we have done under RDZ's management. We finished 9th in 21/22 and were then, what 6th when he left after 7 or 8 games into 22/23?

I'm as pleased as PUNCH that it all went wrong for him at Chelsea, but the fact is we got better and better under Potter. I am astonished that RDZ has progressed things even further, but that doesn't really detract from the job Potter did while he was here.

If Bloom decides one day to take him back because RDZ has gone onto bigger things, then I really wouldn't have an issue with that. In fact, it would be interesting to know whether or not Bloom would consider it. I'd like to think Potter would have learnt his lesson over some of the things he's said, notably that "history lesson" bollocks and I'd also say that if he did end up back here one day, I think our fans would ultimately be alright with that with the caveat that Potter could not expect the same level of patience that he once had with us.

 

[Commander]

Well Sir Chris Hughton had the same people in the club yet the football under him was shockingly bad in his final 6 months. Potter took that same personnel and got us playing some very watchable football and by the time he left, we looked pretty much as good as we have done under RDZ's management. We finished 9th in 21/22 and were then, what 6th when he left after 7 or 8 games into 22/23?

And if anyone seriously thinks RDZ could have taken over from Hughton and changed the style like he did that quickly, they are completely deluded. Potter did the near-perfect job after Hughton for RDZ to take over. The squad and style was ready-made for RDZ to work his magic on. Potter was the right man at the right time.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

When the Man U fans get frustrated he can always tell them they need a history lesson.

To be fair, many of them do.

 

[Simster]

To be fair, many of them do.

Indeed. Big club maybe, but only two managers have ever won the league with them, and only 3 European Cup/Champions League wins ever.

Not exactly Real Madrid are they?

 

[Greg Bobkin]

I personally think he will look back and think he should never have left Brighton as it will never be as good for him again.

Fan base pretty much loved him
Backed by an owner fully
Recruitment on point.

Mopo is seeing this now with Spurs.

Maybe, but when a Champions League club comes knocking, it's VERY difficult to turn it down. As I said at the time, the minute Chelsea's interest came along, his head was turned and his interest piqued. That could (probably would) have affected his abilities/performance at the Albion because he'd forever be thinking 'what if?'.

It's also possible that if he hadn't taken the Chelsea job and was somehow still managing Brighton, MUFC wouldn't give him a second look. But, because he's been at a 'BIG CLUB' (and Poch has shown that getting a tune out of Chelsea is more difficult than getting Brighton to keep a clean sheet), all of a sudden football snobbery kicks in and he's the number one candidate.

Whatever happens, I wish him well – apart from when he comes up against the mighty Seagulls.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

I always thought that GP did a great job here, changing the style of play whilst maintaining our position in the Premier league and then pushing on.

However, having seen what RDZ has achieved with the same backing from TBOBE, PBMBE, the recruitment team and the backroom staff in a far shorter timeframe does have me questioning how much of the success was down to GP and how much was down to an exceptionally well run club that he was working for.

I guess following his stint at Chelsea with another at United would give more insight into that question

I think you've got your GONGS mixed up

 

[studio150]

If he does go to Utd, there is at least one NSC poster who will be demanding that all Albion fans shout out 'You should have stayed with a big club' when we play against them. And for the avoidance of doubt the big club is not Chelsea.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Said it before, but I reckon Newcastle is his next stop. Howe has a lot of credit in the bank, but they are struggling at the moment and if they lose to Sunderland tomorrow and then lose their next two to Man City and Villa, he will be in trouble. I would have thought Ashworth would be all over Potter if that were to happen.

Rumour last year that they’ll go for Simeone

 

[Easy 10]

What makes you think the players ant Man U with attitude (Rashford, etc) won’t treat Potter the same way that Sterling, etc treated him? ie who is this Potter, what’s he ever won, what’s he gonna teach me and why should I play for him?

This, for me, is the salient point and is the primary reason why he failed at Chelsea. A dressing room full of big players and giant egos who are used to competing at the very top with high profile managers, with decorated CVs, and winning.

Then "Graham Who ?" walks in with a CV of some relative success at a few small clubs, but no pots. Then add the fact that he has all the personality and charisma of a pickled onion, and its not difficult to see why GP is just not suited to managing one of the big boys. Not yet anyway.

Someone said it would just be Chelsea mk2. That observation is spot on IMO.

 

[Mellotron]

Man Utd don't sack managers as frequently as Chelsea. Otherwise, Ten Hag would have been fired along time ago. Potter might be given more time there than he got at Chelsea. Chelsea are in a league of their own when it comes to firing managers.

I hope you're wrong.

 

[Mellotron]

Be interesting to see how Hojland fares at left back, anyways.

 

[Da Man Clay]

Can’t see it. Done his reputation some damage with the Chelsea debacle. New owner won’t want his first appointment to be questionable which I think GP is - certainly with his ability to manage big name players.