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[News] Government to partly redress 13 years of chronic Tory underfunding of the NHS
- Thread starter Titanic
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Just to be absolutely clear, in three years time when they get the final pay of this pay rise, inflation suggests the task terms rise will be less than half a percent. In real terms nurses will still be£3000pa worse off than they were a decade before.
All nurses are getting a pay well above the minimum figure of 6.5%. A specialist nurse will see her pay rise from £31696 to £40894 while a newly qualified nurse will rise from £22128 to £26970, figures from the Guardian.Agree all increases are more than deserved.
Quite. It’s a step in the right direction but nowhere near enough.
The figures being banded about by the Government, BBC and most of the national press are ridiculous. The “pay increase” is 3% in year 1, 2% in year 2 and 1% in year 3. The figures being spun by the government include the incremental payments that staff were supposed to receive annually as they progress through their respective pay band. As people have previously stated after inflation it will be a pay cut. The small print also shows the government are trying to change how we progress through the pay bands and amend unsociable payments that we receive. Initially we were also due to lose a days annual leave, that has since been dropped from the offer(thanks for that Jeremy). I’m glad to say my union (GMB) is voting against the pay deal, no doubt it will go through due to the apathy of union members, and morale will go even lower, as will our pay in real terms.
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Tbh HT all the time it’s the Tories offering then it will never be enough right?
No. As the poster above has stated this is a pay cut. It needs to be more.
And just to totally head off what I think your agenda is....I have been supportive of some Tory measures, buy-2-let taxation for example, and equally I’ve been dismissive of somw Labour measures, tuition fees.
Those figures incorporate the maximum possible pay points accruing with professional development over the three years. Any reasonably experienced nurse is no longer eligible for any of these as the pay spine soon maxes out.
Blackadder
Brighton Bhuna Boy
A journalist summed up the NHS perfectly on one of the News Channels last night.
"Basically we want a Scandinavian service but we want to pay USA taxes".
We can't have it both ways.
"Basically we want a Scandinavian service but we want to pay USA taxes".
We can't have it both ways.
crookie
Well-known member
Nails it, and ditto for public services in general
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seagulls4ever
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- Oct 2, 2003
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Is there much of a difference between UK and US taxes?
I'm not well educated on what Trump's tax reforms involve, but here's some figures from the Guardian last year:
United Kingdom
Gross salary £25,000
After tax £20,279
Tax rate 18.9%
Gross salary £40,000
After tax £30,480
Tax rate 24.8%
Gross salary £100,000
After tax £65,780
Tax rate 34.3%
United States (New York)
Gross salary £25,000
After tax £19,925
Tax rate 20.3%
Gross salary £40,000
After tax £30,280
Tax rate 24.3%
Gross salary £100,000
After tax £65,800
Tax rate 34.2%
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/may/27/tax-britons-pay-europe-australia-us
Further, many different polls have consistently shown that the majority of the public is prepared to pay a little more in taxes to give the NHS the funding that it needs.