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Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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Agreed on this.

Feel free to DM away, @Harry Wilson's tackle

As @Albion in the north says, a gout attack can be months, even years in the making. The thing I actually found quite useful after my first attack is that I'd sometimes get twinges in my toe as a kind of warning sign, and sometimes at that point it was too late to stave off an attack, but sometimes it wasn't - I would see my big toe as a little Jiminy Cricket, reminding me to stay on the straight and narrow.
Cheers gents. I'm off to see the health care centre people shortly (having been told to go there by my GP surgery, who I was directed to after doing 111 online. I have a book, and iPOD and some water. What did Captain Oats say? :wink:
 








Albion my Albion

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I have added some black cherry & prune juice (when at home so as not to need a WC when one is not available) and have not had any gout or uric acid signs.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,146
Faversham
Yes, it's gout. And my systolic BP was 157. Going to have to bite the bullet and sort myself out. Got 3 days of colchicine to enjoy. The nurse practitioner saw right through me and has booked me in for a physical and mental MOT.

I have decided to turn this all into game. I went a month without booze in 2012, and am confident I can do it again. Selecting a new diet will be fun. I have pulled down some food lists but they are confusing. According to one list, apparently I can eat ad libitem all fruit except restricted fruit and nuts. Grapes rhubarb peaches and apricots are restricted, but there are no nuts on the list. So I need a better list. FFS.

If anyone has a link to a proper comprehensive list of food/drink to seek and avoid, I'd be very grateful.
 




Arthur

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Jul 8, 2003
8,761
Buxted Harbour
Yes, it's gout. And my systolic BP was 157. Going to have to bite the bullet and sort myself out. Got 3 days of colchicine to enjoy. The nurse practitioner saw right through me and has booked me in for a physical and mental MOT.

I have decided to turn this all into game. I went a month without booze in 2012, and am confident I can do it again. Selecting a new diet will be fun. I have pulled down some food lists but they are confusing. According to one list, apparently I can eat ad libitem all fruit except restricted fruit and nuts. Grapes rhubarb peaches and apricots are restricted, but there are no nuts on the list. So I need a better list. FFS.

If anyone has a link to a proper comprehensive list of food/drink to seek and avoid, I'd be very grateful.

But I would suggest you try and find what your trigger is. Mine is red meat mainly beef. Which is a bugger as I love a steak. Would be a complete disaster if it was alcohol though as I drink pretty much every day. That list says to avoid chicken but that is probably 90% of the meat I consume these days so its safe to say that doesn't affect me either.

Also as I've mentioned on this thread before Allopurinol wasn't for me and made the problem worse. I've not take anything for several years. I get the odd twinge from time to time (last week I had a very red and warm toe but it wasn't too painful) but only one bad attack in that time.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Yes, it's gout. And my systolic BP was 157. Going to have to bite the bullet and sort myself out. Got 3 days of colchicine to enjoy. The nurse practitioner saw right through me and has booked me in for a physical and mental MOT.

I have decided to turn this all into game. I went a month without booze in 2012, and am confident I can do it again. Selecting a new diet will be fun. I have pulled down some food lists but they are confusing. According to one list, apparently I can eat ad libitem all fruit except restricted fruit and nuts. Grapes rhubarb peaches and apricots are restricted, but there are no nuts on the list. So I need a better list. FFS.

If anyone has a link to a proper comprehensive list of food/drink to seek and avoid, I'd be very grateful.
I'll repeat here the advice that has stood me in good stead for all my adult life: 'never consent to being booked in for a physical and mental MOT' cos you'll start thinking of yourself as a sick person and rattle with pills for the rest of your natural.

You have not been charged for this medical advice :thumbsup:
 


deslynhamsmoustache1

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Apr 25, 2010
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RAF Tangmere
Yes, it's gout. And my systolic BP was 157. Going to have to bite the bullet and sort myself out. Got 3 days of colchicine to enjoy. The nurse practitioner saw right through me and has booked me in for a physical and mental MOT.

I have decided to turn this all into game. I went a month without booze in 2012, and am confident I can do it again. Selecting a new diet will be fun. I have pulled down some food lists but they are confusing. According to one list, apparently I can eat ad libitem all fruit except restricted fruit and nuts. Grapes rhubarb peaches and apricots are restricted, but there are no nuts on the list. So I need a better list. FFS.

If anyone has a link to a proper comprehensive list of food/drink to seek and avoid, I'd be very grateful.
Arrhh, welcome to my club. Got my very own attack going on right now. My left ankle feels like Roy Keane has slid strait through it. Arrogantly thought there was no need for Allopurinol for the last 3 weeks or so and now release for the twentieth time i really shouldn't miss a day. The worst I've ever had it was after eating a lot of Spinach ironically. There are the usual suspects plus some completely off the wall foods that will literally do you in. Houmous is made with chick peas or handily listed on the foods not to eat as Garbanzo beans, which off course I had no idea about until being mortally wounded after a pot of houmous. Adding vitamin C to you diet is thought to suppress future attacks, so to is losing the odd pound or 28. Good luck to you, as fellow pain makes the most attentive, empathic listener.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
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Arrhh, welcome to my club. Got my very own attack going on right now. My left ankle feels like Roy Keane has slid strait through it. Arrogantly thought there was no need for Allopurinol for the last 3 weeks or so and now release for the twentieth time i really shouldn't miss a day. The worst I've ever had it was after eating a lot of Spinach ironically. There are the usual suspects plus some completely off the wall foods that will literally do you in. Houmous is made with chick peas or handily listed on the foods not to eat as Garbanzo beans, which off course I had no idea about until being mortally wounded after a pot of houmous. Adding vitamin C to you diet is thought to suppress future attacks, so to is losing the odd pound or 28. Good luck to you, as fellow pain makes the most attentive, empathic listener.
Thanks for that. I can't wait to start the allopurinol. For the first time ever I have come back from my mate's house where we were watching Leicester, at half time, because of the agony. Foot up, on the recliner, now with the snooker on. :thumbsup:

(and a glass of wine)
 


Silverhatch

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Feb 23, 2009
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Agreed on this.

Feel free to DM away, @Harry Wilson's tackle

As @Albion in the north says, a gout attack can be months, even years in the making. The thing I actually found quite useful after my first attack is that I'd sometimes get twinges in my toe as a kind of warning sign, and sometimes at that point it was too late to stave off an attack, but sometimes it wasn't - I would see my big toe as a little Jiminy Cricket, reminding me to stay on the straight and narrow.
I concur. I can actually pinpoint when I first saw a consultant about a weird pain in my mid foot. 18 years later a specialised scan proved to me the presence of Gout crystals, but I’d been having worsening attacks for several years. Allopurinol for the past 6-years has seen me attack free. Good luck to anyone suffering.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

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But I would suggest you try and find what your trigger is. Mine is red meat mainly beef. Which is a bugger as I love a steak. Would be a complete disaster if it was alcohol though as I drink pretty much every day. That list says to avoid chicken but that is probably 90% of the meat I consume these days so its safe to say that doesn't affect me either.

Also as I've mentioned on this thread before Allopurinol wasn't for me and made the problem worse. I've not take anything for several years. I get the odd twinge from time to time (last week I had a very red and warm toe but it wasn't too painful) but only one bad attack in that time.
Cheers! Hope you can keep it under control. I feel like 40 years of debauchery has suddenly caught up with me in a few brutal hours.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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I'll repeat here the advice that has stood me in good stead for all my adult life: 'never consent to being booked in for a physical and mental MOT' cos you'll start thinking of yourself as a sick person and rattle with pills for the rest of your natural.

You have not been charged for this medical advice :thumbsup:
I have had a tough time lately and know what's behind it so a bit of emoting may be useful. Can't sleep properly and when I do it's catastrophe dreams. But the main cause is now resolved. All real shit rather than existential. Not exercising presently is a bugger, but sciatica and now the gout is going to hamper me a bit. No meat will be an easy option. Anxiolytics? No chance. A mate of mine has been f***ed up for 25 years because of Prozac.

Cheque's in the post :wink:
 


Surf's Up

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Jul 17, 2011
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I believe a lifetimes addiction to gothic electronic music marketed through the subtle methodology of using pictures of attractive scantily clad women to lure in unsuspecting aficionados is a well known gout inducer - I fear there is no remedy for the hopelessly hooked???
 


Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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Another one to add to the list of NSC Goutees.

Had a minor episode a year or so ago, which was over in less than 48 hours,.
This one started on Monday night and has been hideous.
Painkillers/Ibuprofen don't touch it .
Ice gives me some relief though.

Just got a bottle of Montmorency Cherry capsules (6000mg) from Amazon.
I'll let you all know, if they help.


No idea what has brought this on.
Been dieting for the past 4 weeks, drinking loads of water and eating sensibly.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,146
Faversham
Another one to add to the list of NSC Goutees.

Had a minor episode a year or so ago, which was over in less than 48 hours,.
This one started on Monday night and has been hideous.
Painkillers/Ibuprofen don't touch it .
Ice gives me some relief though.

Just got a bottle of Montmorency Cherry capsules (6000mg) from Amazon.
I'll let you all know, if they help.


No idea what has brought this on.
Been dieting for the past 4 weeks, drinking loads of water and eating sensibly.
Schoolboy error :wink:

I have lots of cherry juice in*, and have now completed the colchicine course. Today the pain has subsided by 50%. I thought about going up to London but I haven't resolved the sciatica yet, so walking is slow and painful. Microsoft Teams is my friend. Hopefully the gout will have subsided sufficiently for the Villa defeat on Sunday....

I hope you get over it soon. :thumbsup: And do let us know if the cherry caps help.

*https://www.diffordsguide.com/beer-wine-spirits/6702/dallaways-cherry-juice
 


spongy

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Aug 7, 2011
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I am a gout sufferer too. Usually in my left ankle, when I have an attack it is severely acute and lays me up for 3-4 days. So much as even thinking about even twitching my little toe would worry me and the thought of needing a piss and trying to get to the toilet would make me cry. Literally.

I've been on allopurinol 200mg for over 10 years and still drink heavily. It's not in particular that does me on, it's alcohol. And only when I'm dehydrated. I'm at risk now due to the warmer weather.

Colchicine is great for heading off a possible attack incoming but by god as my witness don't take more than prescribed as it caused me massive stomach cramps and gave me diarrhoea so bad I lost half a stone in 6 hours by crapping literal water over that period.

Look after yourself. Just one acute attack should be enough for us all to change things but yet here we are.....
 


albionalba

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Aug 31, 2023
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Total sympathy with all the gout sufferers posting. I recognise many of those horribly disabling episodes described. So frustrating to advise about as everyone seems to react differently to different things. I've made up lots of tinpot theories based on my own experience. The only constant I have is that Allopurinol (300 + 100) has let me live and eat normally - back on shellfish etc but still avoid anchovies in volume as very high purine (and never eat meat). Most days I have nagging doubts about any side effects from taking Allopurinol (but those are probably more of my tinpot theories).
 


Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
12,132
Schoolboy error :wink:

I have lots of cherry juice in*, and have now completed the colchicine course. Today the pain has subsided by 50%. I thought about going up to London but I haven't resolved the sciatica yet, so walking is slow and painful. Microsoft Teams is my friend. Hopefully the gout will have subsided sufficiently for the Villa defeat on Sunday....

I hope you get over it soon. :thumbsup: And do let us know if the cherry caps help.

*https://www.diffordsguide.com/beer-wine-spirits/6702/dallaways-cherry-juice
Cheers.


I started taking the capsules last night.
The pain is far less severe today.

It may be unrelated as today is day 4 and it may have relented regardless.
 






Grizz

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Jul 5, 2003
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Man, this has to be one of the most frustrating illnesses. I walk a lot, it's my way of staying fit, good for mental health, but gout has put the kybosh on it this week. Only the third attack I've ever had, as mine is hereditary/genetics, so as long as I avoid certain foods I'm all good. I bashed my big toe in the garden the other day and it set it off. Didn't know that could happen, so you live and learn. Thought I'd caught it early, shoved the naproxen down my gob and cracked on, but it's taking its time buggering off. It is getting better, naproxen and icing is helping, but I'm not good at sitting around doing nothing and discovered I'm allergic to picked cherries ffs! 😏 Can you get cherry juice anywhere? Can you heck. Any heads up on that would be great.

My self-cert from work is up on Tuesday, so hoping it's gone by then, swelling has gone down, just the big toe joint looks red and stiff. Don't fancy having to sort out a docs appointment.

Sorry, just a rant, needed to get that out to people who'd get it.
 


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