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Got to play Derby again next year



We made Derby look good I'm afraid. You could see with some competent defending they struggled to even create a chance against 10 men.

Nice football no doubt and much better than the confused mess of tactics Oscar had us playing, but Dyche was right to criticise them for having no plan B. QPR defenders showed that Chris Martin is not all that.
 




Paris

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We made Derby look good I'm afraid. You could see with some competent defending they struggled to even create a chance against 10 men.

Nice football no doubt and much better than the confused mess of tactics Oscar had us playing, but Dyche was right to criticise them for having no plan B. QPR defenders showed that Chris Martin is not all that.

Chris Martin is a great player at this level. He showed that against us more than once last season and his 20+ goals would indicate he showed up against a fair few other teams as well. Just because QPR nullified the Derby attack by sticking the majority of their team in their 18 yard box, that doesn't make Martin a crap player.

Will Derby do a Leicester or a Watford next season? Time will tell.
 


the wanderbus

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I dont get where all this bumming of Derby comes from, in the first leg of the play offs they could easily have been 3 goals down in half an hour. their 2nd goal was a fluke AND we had 2 good penalty shouts turned down. In th 2nd leg ,although they oplayed us and deserved their win they also had the massive advantage of playing against a makeshift defence shorn of its most influential players. You can add to that an acclaimed "brilliant" goal by the albino was infact another huge slice of luck seeing as he took a swing with his right foot ,missed, the ball hit his left ankle and went in, nothing deliberate about it at all. I've never liked Derby and never will, Hope they get relegated.

Am I bitter.....you ****ing bet.
 


Soulman

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If we have to have a long(ish) haul away game instead of a London one, then Derby gets my vote. Good ground, good pubs, relatively easy trip and (the vast majority are) decent fans.

Yep, although we lost it was a decent day out. QPR ground is very poor, so another trip to Derby is the benefit from yesterdays game.
Derby thoroughly deserved to win yesterday, shame.
 


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Can we just send Derby the six points now?
 




joeinbrighton

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Derby weren't ruthless enough once QPR were reduced to 10 men. For all their dominance with the numerical advantage, they just seemed to plod through that spell with no urgency. You knew QPR had to have one chance in the last 10 minutes and it so happened that Bobby Zamora buried it.
 


mikeyjh

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We made Derby look good I'm afraid. You could see with some competent defending they struggled to even create a chance against 10 men.

Nice football no doubt and much better than the confused mess of tactics Oscar had us playing, but Dyche was right to criticise them for having no plan B. QPR defenders showed that Chris Martin is not all that.

Don't agree with that, we created chances, quite a lot, and at 1 stage I think it was just a matter of time. That said, any team will struggle to score against a team that bought a fleet of buses to park!!

I wish we could create some danger from set pieces though, 14 corners and I'm not sure any of the ended up with a decent header/shot.
 


albionite

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Be interesting to see what happens to Derby next year.

Once loans have gone back to own clubs and their players have been poached i don't think they will be as good as this year.
 




mikeyjh

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Be interesting to see what happens to Derby next year.

Once loans have gone back to own clubs and their players have been poached i don't think they will be as good as this year.

Genuine question, but which players do you think are going to be 'poached'. Aside from Hughes, I can't think too many of our squad will be high on the PL clubs radar. In terms of our loans, we'd miss George Thorne, I'll give you that, but not Bamford particularly and Wisdom has been hit and miss. Don't think that makes us much different from any other championship club.
 


Max Paper

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Delighted that they mugged it. As I took my seat at the Amex before kick off I hoped they would go up if they beat us after two legs but after listening to their fans outside the ground after the game and one monumental bellend on the train back to Brighton I wished them nothing but failure. Ha ha. Feel a bit bad for the resident Derby fan though but ha ha once again.
 


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Genuine question, but which players do you think are going to be 'poached'. Aside from Hughes, I can't think too many of our squad will be high on the PL clubs radar. In terms of our loans, we'd miss George Thorne, I'll give you that, but not Bamford particularly and Wisdom has been hit and miss. Don't think that makes us much different from any other championship club.

Lee Grant? Played a blinder at The Amex. Thought Wisdom was the best right back I saw at The Amex. I guess the obvious other one would be Bryson.
 




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We made Derby look good I'm afraid. You could see with some competent defending they struggled to even create a chance against 10 men.

Nice football no doubt and much better than the confused mess of tactics Oscar had us playing, but Dyche was right to criticise them for having no plan B. QPR defenders showed that Chris Martin is not all that.

Pretty sure our lack of defensive options (not to mention lack of Stephens in midfield) helped make them look good. While they deserved to win over the two legs, there is no way would have gone down that easily with Greer and Upson playing both games
 


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As much as I wanted Derby to go up.....there is a bonus in being able to go the Brunswick again

I didn't care who went up but you're right, the Brunswick is very decent. Also we did tell them that they were going to lose in the final.
 


joeinbrighton

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Lee Grant? Played a blinder at The Amex. Thought Wisdom was the best right back I saw at The Amex. I guess the obvious other one would be Bryson.


Lee Grant played very well at the AMEX it's true. Grant is, however, 31 years of age. Maybe not especially old in goalkeeping terms, but it would be unusual for a Premier League club to target someone of that age in a specialist position who has not previously played at that level up to now. He'd possibly be viewed as a good back-up keeper by some Premier League sides, but I would think Grant would sacrifice that in order to play more regular football at a club that is capable of reaching that level themselves a year on from now. He has some affinity with Derby given that this is his second spell playing for them. I think all the while McClaren is managing Derby, they will be a club that their best retained players will be happy to stay at and also a club that will appeal to top flight clubs looking to loan out their young talent.
 




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Thorne will be a big miss. Bryson might be a target.

And will McLaren be targeted by a prem club?
 


Pickles

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We all know that Scctcheeve Mclaren is a very good manager ( I'd be delighted to see him here )

He admits himself that the England job was too early in hindsight.

Is he PL ready? I think he probably is now.
 


joeinbrighton

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It would need to be a pretty big job in the Premier League to lure McClaren away from Derby. He has an affinity with that club because he played for them and was then also Assistant Manager to Jim Smith there, so this is his 3rd spell at Derby. I think he signed up to the project, knowing it might take a year or two to get Derby back to the Premier League. The only jobs in the Premier League I think he'd leave Derby for are with the big clubs, and he's probably faced with a glass ceiling where those jobs are concerned because of the past perceptions of him.
 


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I wanted Derby to win because it would have been another London game and it would have been interesting to see how QPR would have coped with its massive wage bill (that is according to the BBC) bigger than Athletico Mardid's! On the Derby play off, then but for Upson's dreadful challenge (I think one of the worst I have ever seen in terms of irresponsible, poorly timed and in the box) then we would have been 1-0 up after the first half of the first leg having played them off the park. How the second half would have then panned out would have been interesting and the second leg where they destroyed us would have been a different dynamic.
 




mikeyjh

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Thorne will be a big miss. Bryson might be a target.

And will McLaren be targeted by a prem club?

I know that we're trying to keep Thorne, who knows how that will end up - You're right Bryson might be a target, but I'd put him and McClaren in the same bracket in that I'm not convinced they'd be a target for a top half team. That said, Bryson is 27 and someone is going to offer him 3x wages or something, who would begrudge him....

In short, we're in a better position than most in the championship in terms of our holding on to our 'assets', but like everyone else, if the PL comes calling.....
 


SussexHoop

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Must of been great being a qpr fan at wembley today.
Like you wouldn't believe! I still can't believe it happened.

Don't agree with that, we created chances, quite a lot, and at 1 stage I think it was just a matter of time. That said, any team will struggle to score against a team that bought a fleet of buses to park!!

I wish we could create some danger from set pieces though, 14 corners and I'm not sure any of the ended up with a decent header/shot.
You're right about when we had the ball. It was either hoof it hopefully to Charlie Austin or try and find Hoilett. Not what we were expecting. However you had a lot of the ball, played the better football, you didn't score and at the crucial time, your defenders switched off. It's as simple as that.

Key moment for me was Clint Hill stopping the substitution of Hoilett for Karl Henry. He went running toward the technical area and told them to take him off, drop Traore to left back and leave Hoilett on. Not too many I can think of that would do that. Worries me a player could see it but the management couldn't.

I believe 13 players are out of contract and the powers that be have said they've learnt the lessons of last time. We'll see.

Derby players despite their obvious distress and Steve McLaren stayed to applaud us. McLaren magnanimous in his post-match interviews. I wish them well next season.
 


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