mikeyjh
Well-known member
Well, I'm not convinced that £2.30 a week will make a huge difference, no..........
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Gorgeous George's Autumn Statement
- Thread starter Bozza
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Well, I'm not convinced that £2.30 a week will make a huge difference, no..........
There has been a huge increase in “low-wages” in Germany but it is primarily down to the “mini-job” scheme. It originally came in to streamline the existing employment of part-time and short-term staff and in turn stimulate the part-time and short-term sector of the economy. Whilst it was initially a big success it did eventually lead to some abuse as companies benefitted from having multiple persons on mini-job contracts in place of a single person on a ‘regular’ contract. Yes Germany has been utlising these low wages but it was in the low wage sector. It only became an issue when it was abused. There has been a lot of talk about this issue in the press for the past two years and it was the cornerstone of the current coalition deal...so to say I knew nothing about it is plain wrong as I could hardly ingore it. My wife was also initially employed in a school on one of these contracts.
You are quite right I do find low-pay abhorrent and I did not like the low-pay situation in Germany. I’m pleased that it was noticed, acknowledged and addressed by the current coalition (it was the SPD not Merkel’s party which pushed for this) and will be implemented on 1st Jan 2015. In principle the mini-job scheme is good, but it does need protection from abuse.
Frampler
New member
This helps the top 10% far more than it does the bottom 30%. One of the great political acts of sleight of hand.
Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!
Primary data is fact
Of which £1.92 was already planned and known about. Still, there's always the saving on stamp duty................
Stumpy Tim
Well-known member
So Ed last week was talking about taking money from private schools & playing the class war game, while George has sorted out the stamp duty fiasco. I've never voted Tory in my life, but it's very tempting
There is nothing wrong with the debt still rising, I just wish the Tories hadn't pretended they had ever planned to get "on top of it" in order to get elected. Lots of pre election sweeteners in there, which I remain cynical about.
The best change was the long overdue stamp duty changes which were introduced by a Labour government who were by then clearly punch-drunk on power, which meant they didn't bother to listen to genuine concerns over such a poorly implemented policy. Not that different to Thatcher's Poll Tax really. And you have to wonder why it's taken them 4.5 years to change it.
I think you're being very ungrateful. George is basially buying each and every one of us a half of Kronenbourg, per WEEK. It's jolly kind of him.
Quite clever really - about £1.80 of the £2.30 goes straight back to him in excise duties.
There you go, you see. Simples. Blue is here to stay.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
You mean Blue & Orange surely ?
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
I'm a bit disappointed no mention of bingo or other things that hard working tax payers enjoy doing
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
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Actually, the UK is not too bad compared with other countries in taxing the low paid. Within the EU only Ireland, Malta and Cyprus take a smaller percentage of tax from the lowest wage earners.
tinycowboy
Well-known member
I'm not all that greedy at all really, I don't have much disposable income, but I am looking to sell my place. And the previous rules implemented by Labour were a total shambles. Under these new rules, there doesn't appear a great deal of difference on the total stamp duty cost until you get beyond £2m. So what exactly is your problem? People in this country like to own their house - deal with it.
Unless you happened to miss the boat and failed to get on the housing ladder when you should have done. Just a hunch.
mikeyjh
Well-known member
And that's the sad thing isn't it, him and his sneering cronies (and don't they sneer) were telling us so triumphantly just how much they were helping the less well off, and that's what it amounts to, a half of crap lager. So sad.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
Not bothering with the paperwork seems to be a feature of building an economy based on "mini jobs".
A job that offers work for 16 hours a week, at the national minimum wage, will involve no tax deductions, no national insurance contributions and no entitlement to sick pay. It goes without saying that such a job would bring no entitlement to benefit from the new rules on workplace pensions.
But it's a JOB! It has a walk-on part in the numbers that prove that the economy is on the up.
mikeyjh
Well-known member
I don't think there's a problem with people wanting to own their own homes, its the manic obsession with it that's a problem. That and and an obsession with the value of that property and the perceived wealth it gives people.
Mr Bridger
Sound of the suburbs
Or in other words, trying to secure yours and your family's future so you don't have to rely on the government for handouts.
Do you own your own property?
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
- 26,121
You're arguing with the wrong person. My point was specifically about taxing the low-waged.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 72,348
Your hunch is wrong. There was no 'boat' to 'miss', unless your brain happens to be hard-wired that way. I bought a shitty two bedroom flat opposite the park in the mid nineties purely so as a newly-divorced dad of two tiny wee kids they'd have somewhere nice to play on the weekends that they came to stay with me. Although DFLs would gladly pay very stupid money for it now, its still a shitty two bedroom flat. Meh
mikeyjh
Well-known member
Other investments are available. Yes I do.