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Don Quixote

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Nov 4, 2008
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Gordon Brown to resign as leader of the Labour party.

Not immediately of course, talks between Labour and the Lib dems. Looks like there will be another PM not elected again!
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,953
Surrey
We were always going to get an unelected leader once we realised it was a hung parliament.

The chance of a rainbow coalition just increased 5 fold...
 


Gritt23

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Jul 7, 2003
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Not immediately of course, talks between Labour and the Lib dems. Looks like there will be another PM not elected again!

We have a Parliamentary system, not a Presidential system. Therefore we NEVER elect the PM.
 


Don Quixote

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Nov 4, 2008
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I know we don't but I am just suggesting the new PM will not have been a leader of a party during the elections. Those TV debates were a waste of time.
 






beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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sauce or speculation? will the Labour party stand for it (having another leader imposed), is there a candidate that wouldn't be challenged every few months like Brown was?
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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Uffern
We have a Parliamentary system, not a Presidential system. Therefore we NEVER elect the PM.

Quite right. Since the 2nd World War, we've had seven PMs who were unelected (by a general election) when they first took office. That's actually more than PMs who won general elections for their first stint.

There were plenty before the war too - the British system allows for it and it normally passes without comment. As I said the other day, I don't know why it's been continually raised as an issue with Brown, when it's never been a problem before.
 




drew

Drew
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Oct 3, 2006
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Burgess Hill
Have you made up any other stories today as well?

Everyone knows he is going but he hasn't done so yet. It will part of the deal for the Lib Lab pact.
 








El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
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Quite right. Since the 2nd World War, we've had seven PMs who were unelected (by a general election) when they first took office. That's actually more than PMs who won general elections for their first stint.

There were plenty before the war too - the British system allows for it and it normally passes without comment. As I said the other day, I don't know why it's been continually raised as an issue with Brown, when it's never been a problem before.

Disraeli and Winston Churchill both were Prime Minister under the same circumstances, and I don't hear people bitching about them for being 'unelected'.
 








Tricky Dicky

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Jul 27, 2004
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sauce or speculation? will the Labour party stand for it (having another leader imposed), is there a candidate that wouldn't be challenged every few months like Brown was?

There won't be a leader 'imposed' - the Labour party takes 4 or 5 months to elect a leader, which is presumably why Gordie's not going til Sept.

I would expect is to be Milliband (senior) or Alan Johnston - hopefully not Harman.
 






Brown to resign as Labour leader

Gordon Brown has said he is stepping down as Labour Party leader.

Mr Brown, prime minister since 2007, said he wanted a successor to be in place by the time of the party's conference in September.

Mr Brown announced his intention to quit in a statement in Downing St in which he also said his party was to start formal talks with the Lib Dems.

The Conservatives won the most seats and most votes in the election and have been in talks with the Lib Dems.

Mr Brown said no party had won an overall majority in the UK general election and, as Labour leader, he had to accept his part in that.

He said he had no desire to stay in his position longer than was needed to form a stable government, and that he would ask the Labour Party to set in form the process of a leadership contest.

He said it could be in the interests of the country to form a "progressive" government - possibly in coalition with the Lib Dems - the UK's third largest party.

It emerged earlier that the Lib Dem negotiating team, who have held days of talks with the Conservatives, had also met senior Labour figures in private.

The BBC's political editor Nick Robinson said one of the stumbling blocks to any Lib Dem-Labour deal had been Mr Brown himself
 




Giraffe

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Aug 8, 2005
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There won't be a leader 'imposed' - the Labour party takes 4 or 5 months to elect a leader, which is presumably why Gordie's not going til Sept.

I would expect is to be Milliband (senior) or Alan Johnston - hopefully not Harman.

It will be Milliband.

If lib dems form an alliance with labour though I will more cross than when I heard the Calderon news. Very bad for the country.
 




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