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goldstone

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Jul 5, 2003
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and whats wrong with the words "christian names"??? thats what they are known as are they not?

No they're not. They are first names. Whether or not you are unfortunate enough to be christian is irrelevant.

Here in the US of A first names are called first names. If you used the term christian name you would be rightly not be understood.

And last names are called last names, not that stupid term surname.

And before you jump all over me I do not agree with all american terms, but in this case they've got it right.
 


Fungus

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May 21, 2004
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Truro
The 'Christian' doesn't refer to the person, it refers to the name.

From Wikipedia:
The term Christian name is often used as a general synonym for given name. Strictly speaking, the term applies to a name formally given to a child at an infant baptism or "christening".
Given name - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So how can it refer to the name of a person that isn't Christian?
 






Juan Albion

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From Wikipedia:
The term Christian name is often used as a general synonym for given name. Strictly speaking, the term applies to a name formally given to a child at an infant baptism or "christening".
Given name - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So how can it refer to the name of a person that isn't Christian?

But you've just answered your own question. Doh!

Because of common usage ("often used as a general synonym for given name"). That is why Wikipedia says "Strictly speaking. . ." instead of "It is a name given at a baptism".

It's not difficult. . .
 






Fungus

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May 21, 2004
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But you've just answered your own question. Doh!

Because of common usage ("often used as a general synonym for given name"). That is why Wikipedia says "Strictly speaking. . ." instead of "It is a name given at a baptism".

It's not difficult. . .

But "common usage" doesn't make it correct. A lot of people would be offended to be asked for their "Christian name". Me included. I don't have "a Christian name". How can it refer to the name of a person that isn't Christian?
 


Juan Albion

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But "common usage" doesn't make it correct. A lot of people would be offended to be asked for their "Christian name". Me included. I don't have "a Christian name". How can it refer to the name of a person that isn't Christian?

So when someone in your house says they are going to do the hoovering, do you get upset because you have a Dyson?

You may not like common usage, but that doesn't make it wrong.

Anyway, if we abide by your definition that a first name is only a Christian name if it was bestowed at a baptism, what would you say if you were baptised as a baby but grew up an atheist? It would be a Christian name by the very definition YOU YOURSELF provided, would it not? Would you be offended then?

If you get offended by being asked what your Christian name is, I suggest you either:

a) move over here where they are indeed referred to as first names or given names; or
b) get a thicker skin.

I'd prefer it if you chose b).

Good grief, some people are SO sensitive.
 


Albalbion

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Feb 24, 2009
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absolutely pathetic what people get offended about these days, 'christian names' 'blackboards' even christmas. sorry but the last time i looked this was a christian country, so if we were to go by some other countries laws, everyone born here should have 'christian' names. colin kazim richards had to change his name to kazim kazim for turkey cos they wouldnt let him use his 'christian name'. pathetic. bet you wouldnt kick up about that though.
 




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