[Albion] Good on you Stacey Dooley

[FatSuperman]

I wrote a lengthy post on this, but really it was just a precursor to a shameless plug. If anyone is looking to help impoverished people that are trying to help themselves, then please consider setting up an account at Lendwithcare and providing some money for microloans.

I've been using it for years and I really like the fact that once you get the money back, you can lend it out again to somebody else. I've never mentioned it to anyone before now so hopefully, I'm not coming across as too 'white saviour' here.

https://lendwithcare.org

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

We might as well just not bother, and let other African countries raise money for 'their own' then, or whatever point he is trying to make.

It's not all-or-nothing, though. There is room for reflection and accepting that perhaps everyone is on the same side in the end whilst realising that there are complexities that could be considered.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Even if Lammy was right (he very much isn’t) about “white saviours” etc., the recipients of the charity really don’t care what “message it sends out”, they just want and need food and medical care and help.

Anyone getting in the way of this (i.e. Lammy with his comments potentially putting off “white saviours” is simply adding to the problems of those needing charity. He doesn’t offer them any solutions.

Simply, I’m strongly of the opinion that Lammy is simply a racist and his “agenda” trumps people getting aid. Note that he does not criticise Lenny Henry, who according to Lammy’s logic is a “western saviour” so motivation for helping is the same thing as “white saviours”, the only difference is skin colour. Lammy’s MO.

'White Saviour' is glib Amerikan-ese. As is 'Magical Negro'. Both have their origins in Hollywood stereotyping. Which is the dustbin to which they should be consigned.

 

[pishhead]

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-02-28...fer-to-make-film-in-africa-says-comic-relief/

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Warning: The below will not fit Lammy's agenda.

Oprah Winfrey
Talk show host Oprah Winfrey founded Oprah’s Angel Network to promote helping others, but her most notable work to date has to be the Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy for Girls in South Africa—opened in 2007– which aims to help low-income girls receive an education.
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Don Cheadle
Ante Up For Africa is a non-profit organization founded by Don Cheadle, Annie Duke and Norman Epstein dedicated to raising money and awareness for Africans in need.
==========
Blair Underwood
The actor co-founded Artists for a New South Africa, a nonprofit organization working in the U.S. and South Africa to combat HIV/AIDS, assist children orphaned by the disease, advance human and civil rights, educate and empower youth, and build bonds between our nations through arts, culture, and our shared pursuit of social justice.
==========
John Legend
In Africa, Show Me works with Millennium Promise to provide clean water, health care, education and other basic tools that break the cycle of poverty.
==========
Dikembe Mutumbo
A well-known humanitarian, the now-retired Congolese American basketball star started the Dikembe Mutombo Foundation to improve living conditions in his native Democratic Republic of Congo in 1997.
==========
Isaiah Washington
Actor and philanthropist Washington (who played Dr. Preston Burke on TV’s Grey’s Anatomy) has teamed up with the organization Waves 4 Water to provide water filters and construct rain water catching devices to promote sustainable water systems in some of the poorest villages in the world. Waves 4 Water has been involved at ground zero of disaster relief efforts in places such as Bali, Sumatra and Haiti to make drinking water safe again for earthquake and tsunami victims and villages affected by diseases such as cholera.
==========
Liya Kebede
The Liya Kebede Foundation is committed to ensuring that every woman, no matter where she lives, has access to life-saving care. The Ethiopian model, actress, fashion designer, and activist, who is the World Health Organization’s Goodwill Ambassador for Maternal, Newborn and Child Health, started her charity in 2008.
==========
Akon
He started the Konfidence Foundation, a nonprofit organization, dedicated to increasing public awareness of the conditions in Africa and providing underprivileged youth with access to learning and recreational environments equipped with modern technology, educational materials, recreational resources, and health and wellness services.
==========
Denzel Washington
Washington definitely has a soft spot for helping others. Besides being the national spokesman for the Boys’ and Girls’ clubs of America, Washington supports the Nelson Mandela Children’s Fund where he is a lifetime founder member. In 2006, he donated $1 million to Save Africa’s Children, a charity based in Los Angeles that cares for orphans in Africa, where he is the honorary chairperson and where Angela Bassett sits on the Board of Directors.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Apologies for the basic cutting and pasting.


'If the issue is that I'm white... you could always go': Stacey Dooley hits back in 'no more white saviours' row after MP David Lammy slams her on Twitter for encouraging stereotypes by travelling to Uganda for Comic Relief
•Stacey Dooley, 31, is filming a documentary in Uganda with charity Comic Relief
•Instagram pictures show her filming in the country and meeting the locals
•Labour MP David Lammy accused her of perpetuating an 'unhelpful stereotype'
•Comic Relief criticised in the past for using 'poverty porn' in their charity appeals

By Rod Ardehali and Sarah Finley For Mailonline

Published: 23:26, 27 February 2019 | Updated: 08:24, 28 February 2019


Stacey Dooley is today at the centre of an extraordinary race row with Labour MP David Lammy after he said her Comic Relief trip to Uganda is part of Britain's 'white saviour' complex in Africa.

The 31-year-old investigative reporter and Strictly star was involved in a Twitter spat with Mr Lammy over her charity documentary and hit back: 'If the issue is that I'm white... you could always go'.

Mr Lammy rebuked her for appearing in a programme in Uganda which he says promotes 'tired and unhelpful stereotypes' and encourages a 'white saviour' complex - but insisted his attack was not personal.

Strictly star, Miss Dooley is in Africa filming for the charity and posted pictures on Instagram of local women dancing and of children hugging her.


However, the Tottenham MP accused Miss Dooley of showing a 'distorted image of Africa' and perpetuating a 'colonial era' mentality that suggests white people are the solution to poverty in deprived parts of the world.

Mr Lammy, 46, acknowledged Miss Dooley's 'good motives' but bemoaned the British celebrity trope of travelling to Africa to film charity appeals.

Miss Dooley, whose documentary focuses on Malaria and neonatal clinics, responded to the MPs twitter remarks and highlighted the £1billion raised by Comic Relief since it was founded in 1985 by the comedian Lenny Henry.

Labour MP David Lammy criticised Stacey Dooley for appearing in a Comic Relief documentary in Uganda which promotes 'tired and unhelpful stereotypes' and for encouraging a 'white saviour' complex

Documentary maker Stacey Dooley has been criticised for not meeting up with a No White Saviours group while on a charity trip to Uganda


Labour MP David Lammy criticised Stacey Dooley for appearing in a Comic Relief documentary in Uganda which promotes 'tired and unhelpful stereotypes' and for encouraging a 'white saviour' complex

Dooley, 31, is currently filming with Comic Relief about neonatal clinics and malaria in Uganda.

Mr Lammy did acknowledge Miss Dooley's 'good motives' but bemoaned the British celebrity trope of travelling to poorer parts of Africa to film Comic Relief packages


Writing on social media, Mr Lammy said: 'The world doesn't need anymore white saviours. As I've said before, this just perpetuates tired and unhelpful stereotypes.'

The MP added: 'Let's promote voices from across the continent of Africa and have a serious debate.'

Addressing Miss Dooley directly, he said: 'This isn't personal and I don't question your good motives. My problem with British celebrities being flown out by Comic Relief to make these films is that it sends a distorted image of Africa which perpetuates an old idea from the colonial era.'

Miss Dooley replied: 'Is the issue with me being white? (Genuine question) ...because if that's the case, you could always go over there and try raise awareness [sic]?

'I saw projects that were saving lives with the money. Kids lives.'

Mr Lammy added that it's 'complacent to suggest that colonial attitudes are dead', and pointed to the Oxfam scandal, where white aid workers volunteering in Haiti sexually exploited women living in desperate poverty.




Its for charity FFS, but don't let that stop another out of touch MP playing the race card...........

Having sponsored a lad in an orphanage in Uganda for the last 10 years, and he has a number of Albion and England shirts sent out by Harty Junior, the kids wouldn't care what colour the person was who was helping them..

Both sides have a point, but please note this has been reported via the Mail online, which is not noted for its fair journalism. In fact, I would suggest it has been reported in a way to stir up controversy, which isn't helpful.

David Lammy is a very good MP, doing lots to help people caught up in the Windrush scandal caused by this dreadful government, and is very much in touch with his Tottenham constituents.
Likewise Stacey Dooley is doing her bit for the charity as are thousands including your son Harty.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

In the end it comes down to kids in the UK giving their pocket money to help kids elsewhere in the world less fortunate than themselves. Hard to take any negatives from that one shirley?

 

[Giraffe]

Shock horror another Labour MP is shown out to be a ****.

Sent from my SM-A600FN using Tapatalk

Edited for you.

 

[The Clamp]

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
I don’t like SD’s style of reporting but she makes a good point.
Besides, we send Lenny Henry out there. What more do they want?

 

[Baldseagull]

Warning: The below will not fit Lammy's agenda.

Oprah Winfrey
Talk show host Oprah Winfrey founded Oprah’s Angel Network to promote helping others, but her most notable work to date has to be the Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy for Girls in South Africa—opened in 2007– which aims to help low-income girls receive an education.
==========
Don Cheadle
Ante Up For Africa is a non-profit organization founded by Don Cheadle, Annie Duke and Norman Epstein dedicated to raising money and awareness for Africans in need.
==========
Blair Underwood
The actor co-founded Artists for a New South Africa, a nonprofit organization working in the U.S. and South Africa to combat HIV/AIDS, assist children orphaned by the disease, advance human and civil rights, educate and empower youth, and build bonds between our nations through arts, culture, and our shared pursuit of social justice.
==========
John Legend
In Africa, Show Me works with Millennium Promise to provide clean water, health care, education and other basic tools that break the cycle of poverty.
==========
Dikembe Mutumbo
A well-known humanitarian, the now-retired Congolese American basketball star started the Dikembe Mutombo Foundation to improve living conditions in his native Democratic Republic of Congo in 1997.
==========
Isaiah Washington
Actor and philanthropist Washington (who played Dr. Preston Burke on TV’s Grey’s Anatomy) has teamed up with the organization Waves 4 Water to provide water filters and construct rain water catching devices to promote sustainable water systems in some of the poorest villages in the world. Waves 4 Water has been involved at ground zero of disaster relief efforts in places such as Bali, Sumatra and Haiti to make drinking water safe again for earthquake and tsunami victims and villages affected by diseases such as cholera.
==========
Liya Kebede
The Liya Kebede Foundation is committed to ensuring that every woman, no matter where she lives, has access to life-saving care. The Ethiopian model, actress, fashion designer, and activist, who is the World Health Organization’s Goodwill Ambassador for Maternal, Newborn and Child Health, started her charity in 2008.
==========
Akon
He started the Konfidence Foundation, a nonprofit organization, dedicated to increasing public awareness of the conditions in Africa and providing underprivileged youth with access to learning and recreational environments equipped with modern technology, educational materials, recreational resources, and health and wellness services.
==========
Denzel Washington
Washington definitely has a soft spot for helping others. Besides being the national spokesman for the Boys’ and Girls’ clubs of America, Washington supports the Nelson Mandela Children’s Fund where he is a lifetime founder member. In 2006, he donated $1 million to Save Africa’s Children, a charity based in Los Angeles that cares for orphans in Africa, where he is the honorary chairperson and where Angela Bassett sits on the Board of Directors.

He is not against white people or black people founding or helping charities doing work in Africa, he is against the imagery of famous white people holding African babies in raising awareness of poverty and disease, because of a subtle inference that Black people need White people to save them from poverty and disease. I get his point, but I think he has picked the wrong target, Stacey Dooley is famous for exposing problems of people being exploited or mistreated around the world, often because of their age, gender or race.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Edited for you.

Bit of a cheap shot

 

[Westdene Seagull]

So it's not OK for white people to help back people ? What a bizarre rant ! For decades black people have rightly been saying that they are discriminated against because the colour of their skin. Now a black MP attacks a project because of the colour of someones skin. What a hypocrite. The guy's clearly a moron.

 

[FIVESTEPS]

I would have sympathy for African states if they did more to help themselves.Ethiopias population at the time of band aid was 40 million it is now 105 million,a population explosion isn't wise in a country susceptible to famine.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

So it's not OK for white people to help back people ? What a bizarre rant ! For decades black people have rightly been saying that they are discriminated against because the colour of their skin. Now a black MP attacks a project because of the colour of someones skin. What a hypocrite. The guy's clearly a moron.

Attacks? Ok.

 

[Hastings gull]

And if the 'white saviours' said screw this, don't need the negative media and all boycotted, how long before they're accused by the likes of Lammy of doing nothing for third world poverty?

Absolutely. Lammy is a rabble rouser of the first order.

 

[NooBHA]

We might as well just not bother, and let other African countries raise money for 'their own' then, or whatever point he is trying to make.

I have no issue with David Lammy raising the issue. It is a very valid one.

There are some Celebrities who are there just waiting for Cilla Black to pop up and say ''Surprise Surprise'' - However Stacey Dooley is not one of them, so his target is is a ''misguided missile''

If he has these concerns he shouldn't be making it on a Public Platform. He is a Politician and he could have made his concerns known under the radar so to that end, he is the one who seems to be looking for the ''Surprise Surprise Moment''

 

[Bry Nylon]

There are some Celebrities who are there just waiting for Cilla Black to pop up and say ''Surprise Surprise''

Given that she died in 2015, that would be one ****ing surprise.

 

[Pavilionaire]

I'm not a Labour voter but I have a lot of time for David Lammy, and not just because of his Brexit views either. He is also a passionate politician and hot on racial issues, so I'm going to cut him some slack.

Firstly, from Lammy's PR viewpoint it's not a good ideally to attack Stacey Dooley who is something of a National Darling after winning Strictly Come Dancing and doing charity work.

However, does he have a point? Possibly. There's a debate to be had about how we in Britain can best help the disadvantaged in Africa. Maybe Comic Relief does assuage some guilt, maybe by Comic Relief taking some limited action people feel "we've done our bit" when maybe more multinational, concerted action is required.

It is incredible that the EU is this rich 500 million trading bloc with the 27 nations solidly unified AND YET a matter of miles across the sea in North Africa there is absolute chaos in Libya, a gateway for illegal migrants and traffickers. Logically, if it is better for Africa to help itself then we as the UK/EU should start by targetting the Mediterranean countries of Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco and bringing them up, so they can then help the countries on their borders.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Absolutely. Lammy is a rabble rouser of the first order.

The Daily Mail has accomplished its intentions.

 

[studio150]

I would have sympathy for African states if they did more to help themselves.Ethiopias population at the time of band aid was 40 million it is now 105 million,a population explosion isn't wise in a country susceptible to famine.

I take it you didn't watch the episode of the Africa with Ade Adepitan series when he was in Ethiopia.