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Member
Jan 16, 2004
919
Lincoln
:clap2: Thanks Tim. Just got mine now and it looks great.
 




The History Man

Active member
Aug 16, 2003
283
Brighton
Just to let people know that the last pictures were despatched on Tuesday, 29th May, following late delivery of C3 card-backed envelopes, so expect them any time now.

If anyone at these postcodes have received their prints, please let me know as the Royal Mail tracking system is not indicating delivery yet (or in some cases not even attempted delivery):

BA11 6NZ
SG4 0TY
TN40 1HE
BN17 6AF
BN3 4LH
N1 0NX
SK8 5PB
BN13 1QT

Finally, I notice some people have been wondering how we, the Albion Collectors' and Historians' Society, have been able to sell the prints at £10 while the club shop has them at £75.

The originator of the 500 prints, photographer Stewart Weir, valued them at £75 and attempted to sell them through the shop. He also said that 15% of the proceeds would go to BHACHS.

For whatever reason, he came back to us and asked if we would accept a donation of 100 prints in lieu of the 15%, which we agreed to.

Stewart kept to his word and gave us 100 numbered prints. At our AGM we decided to sell these at £5 to BHACHS members and £10 to others. Hence the recent sale.

The club shop, as I understand it, was given no discretion to sell the prints at anything other than £75, so there is no blame to be attached to the club shop for being "greedy", for "bumping up prices", etc. It could be that Stewart himself over-valued the prints if all 500 have not sold.

We were able to offer a limited quantity to the Albion public at £10, but there are no more to be sold at that price, I suspect. However, if Stewart is unable to sell them at £75 through the club shop or anywhere else, I imagine the price will come down in due course, but that is down to Stewart, not the club shop.

Tim
PS Postal covers still available.
 
















stewart weir

New member
Dec 14, 2006
23
The Last Goal

Just to let people know that the last pictures were despatched on Tuesday, 29th May, following late delivery of C3 card-backed envelopes, so expect them any time now.

If anyone at these postcodes have received their prints, please let me know as the Royal Mail tracking system is not indicating delivery yet (or in some cases not even attempted delivery):

BA11 6NZ
SG4 0TY
TN40 1HE
BN17 6AF
BN3 4LH
N1 0NX
SK8 5PB
BN13 1QT

Finally, I notice some people have been wondering how we, the Albion Collectors' and Historians' Society, have been able to sell the prints at £10 while the club shop has them at £75.

The originator of the 500 prints, photographer Stewart Weir, valued them at £75 and attempted to sell them through the shop. He also said that 15% of the proceeds would go to BHACHS.
OVER 50 PRINTS WERE SOLD THROUGH THE SHOP. THERE WAS NO ATTEMPT. THEY WERE IN THE SHOP FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY

For whatever reason, he came back to us and asked if we would accept a donation of 100 prints in lieu of the 15%, which we agreed to.I OFFERED THE PRINTS TO THE SUPPORTERS CLUB BECAUSE THEY WERE IN A BETTER POSITION TO MARKET DIRECT TO THEMSELVES WITHIN... PLUS I WAS GOING AWAY FOR A PERIOD OF TIME TO TRAVEL. THIS WAS MADE VERY CLEAR TO TIM

Stewart kept to his word and gave us 100 numbered prints. At our AGM we decided to sell these at £5 to BHACHS members and £10 to others. Hence the recent sale.

The club shop, as I understand it, was given no discretion to sell the prints at anything other than £75, so there is no blame to be attached to the club shop for being "greedy", for "bumping up prices", etc. It could be that Stewart himself over-valued the prints if all 500 have not sold.

THE PRINTS WERE VALUED AT A FAIR PRICE FOR THE VALUE THEY HAVE. TIM CARDER HAS NO IDEA OR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT A LIMITED EDITION PRINT IS SO THEREFORE HE HAS NO JUDGEMENT TO PASS.

We were able to offer a limited quantity to the Albion public at £10, but there are no more to be sold at that price, I suspect. However, if Stewart is unable to sell them at £75 through the club shop or anywhere else, I imagine the price will come down in due course, but that is down to Stewart, not the club shop.

THE PRICE IS £75 AND WILL INCREASE LATER THIS YEAR AS PRINTS SELL. THIS IS STANDARD PRACTICE AS AN EDITION OF PRINTS SELLS. BUT THEN AGAIN TIM HAS NO CLUE ABOUT WHAT THE PRINTS ARE AND AN ERROR WAS MADE WHEN THE SUPPORTERS CLUB REDUCED THE PRICE TO WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS THE VALUE. THEIR NAIVETY PERHAPS?

Tim
PS Postal covers still available.

I donated 100 prints in good faith to the supporters club and stated quite clearly that the prices were £75 each but assumed that the supporters club would reduce slighty to around £60 to its members ONLY. The stupidity of the supporters club is their fault. Im sure they would have sold them all over a period of time to make a profit FOR the historical society etc which would have been around £6000 and not £1000. Please bare in mind this was back in early 2007 and they had all the time in the world to sell even 25 prints a year at £75.

I guess they dont understand the concept of a limited edition print. The prices are £75 and will increase to £100 per print later this year. The prices will not go down. As time goes by and all prints are sold the price will increase.

If anyone does some research into what a limited edition print is that has been signed they will soon realise its not just a photograph. This is an image that represents many things to many people whether they were there or not at the Goldstone on that day. The fact that its signed by Gritt and Storer ensures these prints will become very valuable historical and collectable prints.

Im more than a little surprised that the supporters club decided to lower its value and in turn lower their reward of at least £6000 down to £1000. Some would say naivety.. others stupidity. But for those who got a cheap print they will just say thanks!

If anyone cares to do some research on what a limited edition print is they will realise its its not a photograph. It has a uniqueness of the amount of prints available plus a relavence. The Last Goal has many unique qualitys.. The image, the signatures and number available.

Have a look here for an example of a print that sells from £105 to £240 dependent on the size. These are unlimited editions. Do your own research into the costs of bying limited edition photographs and you will see that £75 really is not greedy... its actually rather cheap.

And yes i am annoyed at the supporters club's naivety and most of all that they have grossly undervalued a 'product' that would have gone a very long way to giving the historical society money to acquire items of importance to the club/fans and to help towards the idea of a permanent club museum :love:

Stewart Weir

http://23fotos.com
 
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bristolseagull

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
5,554
Lindfield
I donated 100 prints in good faith to the supporters club and stated quite clearly that the prices were £75 each but assumed that the supporters club would reduce slighty to around £60 to its members ONLY. The stupidity of the supporters club is their fault. Im sure they would have sold them all over a period of time to make a profit FOR the historical society etc which would have been around £6000 and not £1000. Please bare in mind this was back in early 2007 and they had all the time in the world to sell even 25 prints a year at £75.

I guess they dont understand the concept of a limited edition print. The prices are £75 and will increase to £100 per print later this year. The prices will not go down. As time goes by and all prints are sold the price will increase.

If anyone does some research into what a limited edition print is that has been signed they will soon realise its not just a photograph. This is an image that represents many things to many people whether they were there or not at the Goldstone on that day. The fact that its signed by Gritt and Storer ensures these prints will become very valuable historical and collectable prints.

Im more than a little surprised that the supporters club decided to lower its value and in turn lower their reward of at least £6000 down to £1000. Some would say naivety.. others stupidity. But for those who got a cheap print they will just say thanks!

If anyone cares to do some research on what a limited edition print is they will realise its its not a photograph. It has a uniqueness of the amount of prints available plus a relavence. The Last Goal has many unique qualitys.. The image, the signatures and number available.

Have a look here for an example of a print that sells from £105 to £240 dependent on the size. These are unlimited editions. Do your own research into the costs of bying limited edition photographs and you will see that £75 really is not greedy... its actually rather cheap.

And yes i am annoyed at the supporters club's naivety and most of all that they have grossly undervalued a 'product' that would have gone a very long way to giving the historical society money to acquire items of importance to the club/fans and to help towards the idea of a permanent club museum :love:

Stewart Weir

http://23fotos.com


Perhaps you should share some of your profit from the re-sale with the club then....
 


stewart weir

New member
Dec 14, 2006
23
o did

Perhaps you should share some of your profit from the re-sale with the club then....

I gave the club 950 copies of More Than Ninety Minutes books and they sold them for £19.95. I gave the Supporters club 100 prints and they gave them away for £5 instead of at least £60..

So why should i share the profit with the club? Why dont you share some of your income with them?

Stewart Weir

http://23fotos.com
 








brighton bluenose

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2006
1,396
Nicollet & 66th
If the prints for the Collector's Society were a GIFT, in lieu of a previously-agreed donation, what does it matter that the Society CHOSE to sell them for a tenner?

It might not matter in the grand scheme of things - war, earthquakes, famine etc etc - but in terms of selling them off at five or six times what they were/ are worth it seems remarkably short-sighted to me!
 


If the prints for the Collector's Society were a GIFT, in lieu of a previously-agreed donation, what does it matter that the Society CHOSE to sell them for a tenner?

Especially as the Supporters club seemed quite prescient in this matter as the £75 ones are still not selling 2 and a half years on. I am very happy with mine and would have paid £20 tops (Considering I got a framed signed Peter Ward photo for £35) but limited edition or not, there is no way I would pay £75 and then be expected to trawl around trying to find a shop that sells decent A3 frames (not easy, I can assure you).

Stewart has obviously found some people to pay £75 but expecting to find 500 Albion supporters to willing to pay that much seems a trifle amitious to me. I'm not sure my framed, signed, limited edition print of a painting of the Goldstone by Kevin Fletcher cost much more than that so there is no way I would pay that much for an unframed print of a black and white photograph. I'm sure people do pay big money for unframed photo prints in London galleries but I'm guessing their customers aren't the regulars on here.
 




Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,683
The Fatherland
and then be expected to trawl around trying to find a shop that sells decent A3 frames (not easy, I can assure you).

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I do not know where you live but if you live in Sussex you do not have to go very far to find a framing shop.
 


I do not know where you live but if you live in Sussex you do not have to go very far to find a framing shop.

I said buy - not make. I am not spending a fortune to frame a £10 print. Many shops sell prebuilt frames for under £10. Very few sell them in A3 size.

I take my oil paintings to framing shops - I put cardboard prints of black and white into sub £10 frames.
 


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