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Do leave it out fella. I'm a WHU fan first, BHA follower second. I respect all the anti WHU posts on here and have met many of the members.

I replied tongue in cheek....personally i don't give a flying f**k what you or anyone else thinks of my team.

Please feel free to leave a "thumbs down" if you need to

If I do will you announce it?

Precious little wallflower.
 






El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
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Pattknull med Haksprut
I think you will find that a certain NSC'er brought up this very issue on Five Live when the announcement was made in relation to the West Ham season ticket prices for the new ground over a month ago. :)
 


seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
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Crap Town
I think you will find that a certain NSC'er brought up this very issue on Five Live when the announcement was made in relation to the West Ham season ticket prices for the new ground over a month ago. :)

Media Whore :laugh:
 






Diego Napier

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Mar 27, 2010
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what i find odd is that no one really made any fuss when Man City got gifted their stadium. practically the same circumstances as i recall, atheltics track facing non-use and decay or being handed over to football for a song.

I agree, although the waters were a lot more muddied in London with Spurs and Orient vying for the prize and being frozen out whereas in Manchester there was only ever going to be one beneficiary. In addition, the sums involved are a little different:

"Putting the largest cantilevered roof in the world on to a superstructure that had not been built to bear that kind of weight was far more complex and expensive than envisaged - the contract was announced initially at £155m, before rising to £189m in October.
Compare that to the £42m required to convert the City of Manchester stadium after the 2002 Commonwealth Games."
 








Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,265
I find it staggering that the annual rent being mentioned in the press in £2million a year. I understand Arsenal were repaying £19million each year on the Emirates Stadium, of which £13million was interest and £6 million was capital. With the stadiums roughly comparable this is the equivalent of West Ham being given £17million free every season, and all this on the back of a mega TV deal. It's the football deal of the century.
 


Titanic

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Jul 5, 2003
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I find it staggering that the annual rent being mentioned in the press in £2million a year. I understand Arsenal were repaying £19million each year on the Emirates Stadium, of which £13million was interest and £6 million was capital. With the stadiums roughly comparable this is the equivalent of West Ham being given £17million free every season, and all this on the back of a mega TV deal. It's the football deal of the century.

but I bet plenty of their fans will moan about it for years to come!
 


jevs

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Mar 24, 2004
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Preston Rock Garden
I find it staggering that the annual rent being mentioned in the press in £2million a year. I understand Arsenal were repaying £19million each year on the Emirates Stadium, of which £13million was interest and £6 million was capital. With the stadiums roughly comparable this is the equivalent of West Ham being given £17million free every season, and all this on the back of a mega TV deal. It's the football deal of the century.

It's totally different, Arsenal were buying their stadium, that was their mortgage repayment and i thought it was much higher than that as they paid off the loan in a short time (might be wrong on that though) WHU are paying rent as they will never own the stadium
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
53,153
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what i find odd is that no one really made any fuss when Man City got gifted their stadium. practically the same circumstances as i recall, atheltics track facing non-use and decay or being handed over to football for a song.
Did the taxpayer have to pay a few hundred million to convert that too?
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Did the taxpayer have to pay a few hundred million to convert that too?

not hundreds, it was in early 00's prices, but yes we did pay for the conversion.
 


Gritt23

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Jul 7, 2003
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Meopham, Kent.
I'm really not fussed which team it is doing this, I'm just embarrassed by football as a whole. For all the countless millions, billions even, that are swilling around in the trough, and yet here we are with a massively expensive stadium that multiple football clubs wanted a piece of and yet they effectively turned up to the auction pleading poverty.

The amount of money football has and yet the FA wanted government bail-outs for Wembley, while West Ham / Spurs / Man City make derisory offers for fantastic stadiums. Since when could a Premiership football club only afford £2m a year rent for a 50,000+ state of the art facility? I bet the 3rd choice left back costs them more than that per year.

Football finances just make me sick. Gold and Sullivan have been sniffing around for a Government-subsidised deal for years. It's no coincidence that they sold off Birmingham after the proposed "super casino" that would have been part of St Andrews redevelopment was shelved, and immediately turned up in East London where a stadium was being built.
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
53,153
Goldstone
I'm really not fussed which team it is doing this, I'm just embarrassed by football as a whole.
It's nothing to do with football, it's greedy people like Gold and Sullivan, and stupid people like those who were in charge of the olympic stadium.
 


Gritt23

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Jul 7, 2003
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Meopham, Kent.
It's nothing to do with football, it's greedy people like Gold and Sullivan, and stupid people like those who were in charge of the olympic stadium.

It is because these "greedy people" are absolutely everywhere in our game. They run from players to agents to owners and administrators.
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
53,153
Goldstone
It is because these "greedy people" are absolutely everywhere in our game.
No, these greedy people are everywhere full stop.

Nothing to do with being greedy. Have a read of this http://www.kumb.com/article.php?id=3605
Oh please. Do people sell their counsel houses for millions of pounds profit? No, because they can't. But the West Sham owners could sell your club for huge profits, so it makes no difference that you're just leasing the ground.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,015
The amount of money football has and yet the FA wanted government bail-outs for Wembley, while West Ham / Spurs / Man City make derisory offers for fantastic stadiums. Since when could a Premiership football club only afford £2m a year rent for a 50,000+ state of the art facility?

to be fair would you offer much when you know the government needs a tenant for the stadium? if football hadn't gone in there, we'd have a white elephant costing more to upkeep than it would ever create in revenue itself. best of a bunch of bad scenarios. if you want to address this problem, it goes all the way back to government wanting to host an Olympic games, so lets not blame football. the gall of it was London residents the other side of town paid extra council tax to fund the stadiums.
 


jevs

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Mar 24, 2004
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Preston Rock Garden
Oh please. Do people sell their counsel houses for millions of pounds profit? No, because they can't. But the West Sham owners could sell your club for huge profits, so it makes no difference that you're just leasing the ground.

We still won't be selling the ground, it's nothing to do with selling the club as a ground as an asset would not be included

When the Dildo brothers took over, we were £110m in debt brought on by the previous Icelandics. They've used money out of their own pocket to clear around half the debt. We're still part owned by one of the banks. How are the owners going to make a huge profit ?
 


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