GOD: How much do you believe in him?

[magoo]

Coz then we'd be Salamanders!

 

[NMH]

A very interesting 10 minute Point of View on BBC R4 yesterday entitled "Believing in Belief". Link to podcast below plus an outline. Worth a listen.

BBC - BBC Radio 4 Programmes - A Point of View, Believing in Belief

John Gray argues that the scientific and rationalist attack on religion is misguided. Extreme atheists do not realise that for most people across the globe, religion is not generally about personal belief. Instead, "Practice - ritual, meditation, a way of life - is what counts." Central to religion is the power of myth, which still speaks to the contemporary mind. "The idea that science can enable us to live without myths is one of these silly modern stories." In fact, he argues, science has created its own myth, "chief among them the myth of salvation through science....The idea that humans will rise from the dead may be incredible" he says, "but no more so than the notion that humanity can use science to remake the world"

While man using science is not able to examine the soul / spirit, it's got no place with religion.
Science deals with the solid existence of bodies, objects, things made of atoms and compounds. The soul is not a solid item.

While science cannot create any living thing, or make one egg or sperm, it doesn't come into the equation!

 

[HovaGirl]

well i asked this question a while back and not one religious person came up with an answer so ill give it another go

perhaps someone of a religious persuasion could answer a simple question considering that God heals all sorts of ailments from headaches to cancer (according to religious people that is) why is God incapable of healing amputees?

any takers?

Serious question: where did this claim come from, that God heals the sick?

 

[magoo]

Serious question: where did this claim come from, that God heals the sick?

Wasn't there something in the Bible? LOL!

 

[readingstockport]

Serious question: where did this claim come from, that God heals the sick?

I know it's lazy of me and I should cite each verse but

Let me google that for you

 

[beorhthelm]

Serious question: where did this claim come from, that God heals the sick?

there are many churches who promote this, and a great many "pastors" who make a good living from "channeling" this ability.

 

[Don Quixote]

A "God" doesn't have to heal people, "God" doesn't have to do anything. All God has to have done is create the world to be God.

 

[piersa]

You can lead a horse to water. Give up trying to educate the people who are impossible to educate. Brainwashed and lost, that is what they are.

 

[DerbyGull]

You can lead a horse to water. Give up trying to educate the people who are impossible to educate. Brainwashed and lost, that is what they are.

Can say the exact same for you.

 

[piersa]

Can say the exact same for you.

that is because you are brainwashed.

 

[DerbyGull]

well i asked this question a while back and not one religious person came up with an answer so ill give it another go

perhaps someone of a religious persuasion could answer a simple question considering that God heals all sorts of ailments from headaches to cancer (according to religious people that is) why is God incapable of healing amputees?

any takers?

How can you heal/replace something that isn't there anymore?

 

[piersa]

How can you heal/replace something that isn't their anymore?

You mean "there" you uneducated man/woman

 

[DerbyGull]

that is because you are brainwashed.

I could say you've been hook line and sinkered by society into thinking it's all bad. Believe everything the media throws at you do you?

 

[DerbyGull]

You mean "there" you uneducated man/woman

 

[sydney]

what the f*** are you two on about....who's pushing which view , i'm sorry i can't keep up...!

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

To put things in perspective, the universe was "formed" some 14 billion years ago. Homo Sapiens has been in existence for almost 200,000 years. This is a ratio of 1:70,000

If you relate the life of the universe to one day, "man" has been in existence for 1.23 seconds. We are so insignificant, in the scheme of things, that to think that there is a "God" taking an interest in us is ludicrous.

 

[readingstockport]

How can you heal/replace something that isn't there anymore?

Ermm, forgive me if I am wrong here but your imaginary friend is omnipotent isn't he? He created everything according to the deludos and as such the rules don't apply to him so he can do what he wants. So according to the rules you yourself have written for your friend he could heal amputees but choses not to becuase he loves us all so much he would prefer people to suffer instead of helping them - because he loves them of course.

Or are you, like all good apologetics, moving the goals posts again to hide him in the ever decreasing gaps that he shelters in?

 

[DerbyGull]

Ermm, forgive me if I am wrong here but your imaginary friend is omnipotent isn't he? He created everything according to the deludos and as such the rules don't apply to him so he can do what he wants. So according to the rules you yourself have written for your friend he could heal amputees but choses not to becuase he loves us all so much he would prefer people to suffer instead of helping them - because he loves them of course.

Or are you, like all good apologetics, moving the goals posts again to hide him in the ever decreasing gaps that he shelters in?

Only JC could heal amputees.

 

[Mr Burns]

Only JC could heal amputees.

How can you heal/replace something that isn't there anymore?

Well?

 

[DerbyGull]

Well?

He aint here anymore might be the answer.