Goal or no goal? You decide...

[Eddie Bee]

I'm not one to knock Andy Naylor for the sake of it - I subscribe to the digital version of the Argus, and it remains one of the best sources of information about the club. However, today's article is possibly the shoddiest piece of journalism I have ever read in the paper.

The caption to the series of photos shown says "...but the ball is clearly over the line". Except - the ball IS NOT clearly over the line, because from the angle presented it is impossible to tell (as has now been done to death on this very thread, although there are still a few numpties, it would appear, who cannot grasp that fact).

Whilst Naylor himself probably didn't write that caption, his article does state "Fernando Forestieri's shot .... was over the line when Gordon Greer had a second stab at clearing it." Not satisfied with that, he goes on to say "Any Albion fan trying to argue otherwise is viewing replays of the incident through blue and white tinted spectacles."

Mr Naylor, you have had more than 24 hours to study the video evidence, make sure you understand the definition of a goal, and write a piece that will inform and (possibly) educate your readership. Instead, you get it spectacularly wrong, and insult a big chunk of your audience at the same time. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Methinks original quotes (mine anyway) were possibly being a little ironic about Naylor.

 

[Goldstone1976]

How about this? The last shot is the shot fading into Forster-Caskey taking a corner so it is much of the incident as we have. But Greer has touched the ball by then.
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Yep, ok. I think he has indeed touched the ball by the last frame, so it, at the very least, has to have stopped going into the goal by that point. Thus, no goal!

Aren't linos good these days?!

 

[Goring-by-Seagull]

I'd be interested to know how the poll results would look had it been given as a goal...

 

[symyjym]

I found this on the Watford forum.

 

[Eddie Bee]

I found this on the Watford forum.

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Forestieri was right after all!!

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

I found this on the Watford forum.

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Can't argue with that

 

[Mellotron]

How about this? The last shot is the shot fading into Forster-Caskey taking a corner so it is much of the incident as we have. But Greer has touched the ball by then.
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Anyone STILL arguing that it is a goal is basically arguing that black is white. It was FACTUALLY not a goal.

 

[One Love]

Also, a MASSIVE well done to Greer!

For what?

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

For what?

Making the Sky commentators look like idiots

 

[maglers]

By luck, judgment or just plain not knowing they seem to have got it right (as far as we can tell).
Also, a MASSIVE well done to Greer!

Eh? The officials were not 100 per cent sure it was a goal so they didn't give it. How is that luck?

And why is it well done Greer? Look at his first touch again and tell me that it couldn't have been better and the whole controversy avoided.

 

[Icy Gull]

I found this on the Watford forum.

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Photoshopped and if it's not it makes a lot of rather condescending NSCers absolute MUGS

 

[Sheebo]

Anyone STILL arguing that it is a goal is basically arguing that black is white. It was FACTUALLY not a goal.

I literally cannot believe some people! The second I saw the replay and the commentators said 'well over' I was screaming 'no it's. Not' at the tele! There is no doubt that the correct decision was made, yet still some clueless people still don't get it. Some Watford woman on twitter said I was the 'biggest idiot' she'd ever spoke to ever as I tried to explain it wasn't in! Even drew a patronising diagram for me of the first camara angle loool!

 

[TheDuke]

Can't argue with that

Thats defo been got at. Why bother to cheat like that.

 

[symyjym]

Photoshopped and if it's not it makes a lot of rather condescending NSCers absolute MUGS

 

[Mellotron]

Photoshopped and if it's not it makes a lot of rather condescending NSCers absolute MUGS

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Photoshopped and if it's not it makes a lot of rather condescending NSCers absolute MUGS

 

[TheDuke]

Can't argue with that

Well and truly got at... is there a way of sending this proof to their chat site?

 

[Willy Dangle]

I literally cannot believe some people! The second I saw the replay and the commentators said 'well over' I was screaming 'no it's. Not' at the tele! There is no doubt that the correct decision was made, yet still some clueless people still don't get it. Some Watford woman on twitter said I was the 'biggest idiot' she'd ever spoke to ever as I tried to explain it wasn't in! Even drew a patronising diagram for me of the first camara angle loool!

IDIOT

but your correct

 

[symyjym]

Well and truly got at... is there a way of sending this proof to their chat site?
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Is this better?

 

[Mileoakman]

I know there's not much point in prolonging this much longer but I thought the two pictures on the Argus letter page today that someone sent in are interesting. Both were the same shot taken from different angles and would seem to suggest that its now more likely that the officials were correct and its not a goal.





The second shot shows that the ball hasn't crossed the line completely although the first looks certain that it had. Anyway if there is any doubt then the ref is right to disallow.