Glenn Murray

[Stumpy Tim]

My immediate reaction is NNNOOOOOOOO. But thinking about it, £250k for Murray, sell CMS for £2.5m... leaves a tidy £2.25m for either a new striker or BEAST in midfield. Works for me

 

[Withdean11]

Not a chance. Not good enough

 

[Basil Fawlty]

I wouldn't want to see him back. Once a judas always a Judas, to be honest I think there are far better Target men then Glenn Murray out there. He didn't really set the Championship on fire last season for Palarse did he?

 

[Sheebo]

My immediate reaction is NNNOOOOOOOO. But thinking about it, £250k for Murray, sell CMS for £2.5m... leaves a tidy £2.25m for either a new striker or BEAST in midfield. Works for me

A tidy £2.25m of which was all our money to start with less at least 250k

I really hope CMS proves you wrong this yr Tim - you seem to really not rate him.

 

[Worthai Seagull]

Seedorf?

The Seedorf nonsense started back in May and has been a continual nonsense thread all summer . Let's put it to bed ?
Owen?

 

[misterspatch]

I wouldn't want to see him back. Once a judas always a Judas, to be honest I think there are far better Target men then Glenn Murray out there. He didn't really set the Championship on fire last season for Palarse did he?

Hard to score for a shit team.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

Murray / CMS would work well IMHO... shame the former fcuked Gus off, so... no chance of a return IMHO...

I know for a fact that he didn't f*** Gus off. It came down to money. There were no hard feelings at all.

 

[Biscuit]

He'd be an amazing signing for us. Knows the way we play, good in the air.. service from Vicente, Buckley, Crofts, and with CMS on his right. Yep, I'd take that.

He'd also allow us to defend corners/free kicks as he can actually win a header.

 

[Oscar]

The only thing that rings true about this rumour is that Palarse might be keen to get Glenn's hefty wages off their books and he would be keen to remain living in Brighton where he is settled with his family.

Pity it's the summer holidays as I often see him on the school run and could ask him.

 

[tottenhamseagull]

The Seedorf nonsense started back in May and has been a continual nonsense thread all summer . Let's put it to bed ?
Owen?

 

[Stumpy Tim]

A tidy £2.25m of which was all our money to start with less at least 250k

I really hope CMS proves you wrong this yr Tim - you seem to really not rate him.

I think he would do well in another team. I don't think he fits into the way we play. I've been pretty consistent with that view

 

[El Presidente]

I think he would do well in another team. I don't think he fits into the way we play. I've been pretty consistent with that view

53 goals in 101 starts suggests otherwise.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

I'm going to be a bit bigtime now so apologies for that. When I sat next to Gus at the sponsors dinner (sorry) towards the end of last season, he said that there were no hard feelings at all and if someone offers to more than double your wages you almost can't refuse it, especially if you have a family to think of. He was disappointed to lose him (obviously) but I got no impression that he was angry at all. More surprised that Palace offered what they did.

Interestingly though, he also added the Murray is very different from most players in the way they have to be managed. Gus and Tanno could get the best out of him. Palace is quite clicky apparently and he didn't think he'd get on well up there. There were rumors of him not being happy within the squad as early as then, so this comes as no surprise at all. I asked Gus if there was any chance he could come back, he said something like 'No, it's too late. He wants to but it's too late'.

Whether any of that is true or not I don't know. I know people often just say what the fans want to hear at those events, but I've got no reason to doubt what Gus said.

Personally I think this is actually going to happen and I for one will be DELIGHTED if it does.

 

[misterspatch]

53 goals in 101 starts suggests otherwise.

He was talking about CMS I think.

 

[Mellotron]

Personally I think this is actually going to happen and I for one will be DELIGHTED if it does.

Any basis for it? Especially as you heard from the horse's mouth that "it's too late".

 

[misterspatch]

I'm going to be a bit bigtime now so apologies for that. When I sat next to Gus at the sponsors dinner (sorry) towards the end of last season, he said that there were no hard feelings at all and if someone offers to more than double your wages you almost can't refuse it, especially if you have a family to think of. He was disappointed to lose him (obviously) but I got no impression that he was angry at all. More surprised that Palace offered what they did.

Interestingly though, he also added the Murray is very different from most players in the way they have to be managed. Gus and Tanno could get the best out of him. Palace is quite clicky apparently and he didn't think he'd get on well up there. There were rumors of him not being happy within the squad as early as then, so this comes as no surprise at all. I asked Gus if there was any chance he could come back, he said something like 'No, it's too late. He wants to but it's too late'.

Whether any of that is true or not I don't know. I know people often just say what the fans want to hear at those events, but I've got no reason to doubt what Gus said.

Personally I think this is actually going to happen and I for one will be DELIGHTED if it does.

GP probably acknowledges the fan reaction would not be brilliant.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

53 goals in 101 starts suggests otherwise.

As [MENTION=22108]misterspatch[/MENTION] says, I was talking about CMS

 

[Pantani]

Here is a list of players who scored more goals than Murray last year:

1 Rickie Lambert 27 Southampton
2 Ricardo Vaz Te 22 West Ham United
3 Billy Sharp 19 Southampton
4 Ross McCormack 18 Leeds United
5 Kevin Phillips 16 Blackpool
5 Marlon King 16 Birmingham City
5 Matty Fryatt 16 Hull City
5 Charlie Austin 16 Burnley
9 Carlton Cole 15 West Ham United
9 David Nugent 15 Leicester City
9 Jay Rodriguez 15 Burnley
9 Darius Henderson 15 Millwall
13 Michael Chopra 14 Ipswich Town
13 Marvin Emnes 14 Middlesbrough
15 Kevin Nolan 13 West Ham United
15 Robert Snodgrass 13 Leeds United
17 Peter Whittingham 12 Cardiff City
17 Nikola Žigic 12 Birmingham City
17 Chris Burke 12 Birmingham City
17 Chris Wood 12 Bristol City
17 Adam Le Fondre 12 Reading
17 Andy Keogh 12 Millwall
17 Paul Taylor 12 Peterborough United
24 Nicky Maynard 11 West Ham United
24 Adam Lallana 11 Southampton
24 Ashley Barnes 11 Brighton and Hove Albion
24 Steve Davies 11 Derby County
24 Troy Deeney 11 Watford
24 Luciano Becchio 11 Leeds United
24 Craig Davies 11 Barnsley
24 Lukas Jutkiewicz 11 Middlesbrough
32 Kenny Miller 10 Cardiff City
32 Guilherme Do Prado 10 Southampton
32 Robert Koren 10 Hull City
32 Theo Robinson 10 Derby County
32 Emile Sinclair 10 Peterborough United
37 Scott McDonald 9 Middlesbrough
37 Keith Andrews 9 Ipswich Town
37 Jermaine Beckford 9 Leicester City
37 Craig Mackail-Smith 9 Brighton and Hove Albion
37 Garath McCleary 9 Nottingham Forest
37 Joe Mason 9 Cardiff City
43 Grant McCann 8 Peterborough United
43 David Norris 8 Portsmouth
43 Paul Gallagher 8 Leicester City
43 Gary McSheffrey 8 Coventry City
43 Dexter Blackstock 8 Nottingham Forest
43 Mark Noble 8 West Ham United
43 Jason Scotland 8 Ipswich Town
43 Gary Taylor-Fletcher 8 Blackpool

There are 50 of them, I'll take any of them over Murray. It is no good saying we were a better side with Murray in the team, it was a division lower. The evidence points towards the fact that Murray is not good enough at this level. We may as well get Craig Davies back if we are getting Murray.

 

[somerset]

GP probably acknowledges the fan reaction would not be brilliant.

I think that most of us (not all of course) recognise that his moodyness is always going to be offset by his goals.... he was rarely injured too I seem to recall. Come back Glen.

 

[Southwick_Seagull]

Here is a list of players who scored more goals than Murray last year:

1 Rickie Lambert 27 Southampton
2 Ricardo Vaz Te 22 West Ham United
3 Billy Sharp 19 Southampton
4 Ross McCormack 18 Leeds United
5 Kevin Phillips 16 Blackpool
5 Marlon King 16 Birmingham City
5 Matty Fryatt 16 Hull City
5 Charlie Austin 16 Burnley
9 Carlton Cole 15 West Ham United
9 David Nugent 15 Leicester City
9 Jay Rodriguez 15 Burnley
9 Darius Henderson 15 Millwall
13 Michael Chopra 14 Ipswich Town
13 Marvin Emnes 14 Middlesbrough
15 Kevin Nolan 13 West Ham United
15 Robert Snodgrass 13 Leeds United
17 Peter Whittingham 12 Cardiff City
17 Nikola Žigic 12 Birmingham City
17 Chris Burke 12 Birmingham City
17 Chris Wood 12 Bristol City
17 Adam Le Fondre 12 Reading
17 Andy Keogh 12 Millwall
17 Paul Taylor 12 Peterborough United
24 Nicky Maynard 11 West Ham United
24 Adam Lallana 11 Southampton
24 Ashley Barnes 11 Brighton and Hove Albion
24 Steve Davies 11 Derby County
24 Troy Deeney 11 Watford
24 Luciano Becchio 11 Leeds United
24 Craig Davies 11 Barnsley
24 Lukas Jutkiewicz 11 Middlesbrough
32 Kenny Miller 10 Cardiff City
32 Guilherme Do Prado 10 Southampton
32 Robert Koren 10 Hull City
32 Theo Robinson 10 Derby County
32 Emile Sinclair 10 Peterborough United
37 Scott McDonald 9 Middlesbrough
37 Keith Andrews 9 Ipswich Town
37 Jermaine Beckford 9 Leicester City
37 Craig Mackail-Smith 9 Brighton and Hove Albion
37 Garath McCleary 9 Nottingham Forest
37 Joe Mason 9 Cardiff City
43 Grant McCann 8 Peterborough United
43 David Norris 8 Portsmouth
43 Paul Gallagher 8 Leicester City
43 Gary McSheffrey 8 Coventry City
43 Dexter Blackstock 8 Nottingham Forest
43 Mark Noble 8 West Ham United
43 Jason Scotland 8 Ipswich Town
43 Gary Taylor-Fletcher 8 Blackpool

There are 50 of them, I'll take any of them over Murray. It is no good saying we were a better side with Murray in the team, it was a division lower. The evidence points towards the fact that Murray is not good enough at this level. We may as well get Craig Davies back if we are getting Murray.

Really?