[News] Getting out of hand in Hong Kong!

[Juan Albion]

China. Just a suburb of Taiwan.

 

[blue-shifted]

Fascinating to see since in the long run it might also be everyone elses battle: totalitarian, high-tec state vs the people, possibly the theme of the 21th century.

As I see it this conflict can end in two ways:
1. China are patient, give the HK protesters what they want/need (and possibly more) only to spend the next ten years or so destroying the anti-China movement from the inside, creating a smooth pass to get their control later.

2. China stops the diplomatic game, simply kills thousands of people and anyone questioning it will get the answer "what are you gonna do about it?".

Closer to two. Though I guess they will want to avoid bodies in the street. Mass detention is more likely and those detained will simply never be heard from again.

 

[wellquickwoody]

Unfortunately, imo Beijing will ultimately win, HK will lose any semblance of democracy and true autonomy. But this will take awhile.

The sheer power of the undemocratic Chinese state is immense. They even have the ability to censor search engines if needs must, we’ve seen US tech giants fall in line and creep when ‘told off’. With secret police who are no doubt infiltrating the protest movements, they’ll imprison, divide and conquer.

China has spies here in the university campuses, watching Chinese students and reporting back to Beijing if they are seen to support the HK protestors. Maybe their families will then get a visit? Scary stuff.

 

[blue-shifted]

China has spies here in the university campuses, watching Chinese students and reporting back to Beijing if they are seen to support the HK protestors. Maybe their families will then get a visit? Scary stuff.

Where did you read that? Not that it sounds implausible

 

[BensGrandad]

As a youngster I always thought and read about the punishments given in HK of so many lashes but that doesnt seem to work now. or am I getting confused and it was just Singapore that gave that for many offences.

 

[wellquickwoody]

Where did you read that? Not that it sounds implausible

National and local media. Just a known thing as there is a very big Chinese community here.

 

[dazzer6666]

As a youngster I always thought and read about the punishments given in HK of so many lashes but that doesnt seem to work now. or am I getting confused and it was just Singapore that gave that for many offences.

Not sure about HK but yes, Singapore use caning as a form of punishment (for men under 50 only). From what I've heard it's not like a school caning you or I might have had - it's pretty brutal.

 

[BensGrandad]

Not sure about HK but yes, Singapore use caning as a form of punishment (for men under 50 only). From what I've heard it's not like a school caning you or I might have had - it's pretty brutal.

I thought that HK used it as well but I could well be wrong.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

The British Empire was a force for good in some cases.

Indeed - opium trading was terrific foreign policy.

 

[GT49er]

Indeed - opium trading was terrific foreign policy.

Of course, but still a force for good in some cases, as stated.

 

[blue-shifted]

Utterly respect the bravery of the kids involved. Tho fear for their naivety. They're Chinese now. Sooner rather than later they'll be brutally slapped down by China

Their bravery is incredible. I'm wishing the best for them but fearing the worst.

 

[symyjym]

Ironically Hong Kong was the one colony that appreciated being British.