Getting a bit fed up with 'reverse sexism' on the media (well the BBC actually)

[Lady Whistledown]

I agree. It's conclusive proof that the patriarchy has been well and truly smashed. Roll on November 19th.

This is true. One only has to view the diverse community of presenters on SkySports, with its fascinating mix of craggy-faced, suit-wearing men in their forties and fifties sharing airtime with stunning, slim, perky, much younger women. Mrs Pankhurst would be over the moon, I'm sure.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Don't be silly. I said I didn't want women doing the interviews. I didn't say I wanted men of low intellect to replace them. And how do you know that Mark Pougatch hasn't played footy? I bet he played at school, maybe college, maybe for his local team. All of which would give him a far better grasp of the game than any of the women attempting to appear knowledgable on the BBC.

I played football at school, and for a few clubs over about twenty years after that. I played for the county, for the South East. I've followed the Albion since I was ten years old.

I'd say that qualifies me every bit as much as Mark Pougatch, using your terms of reference.

Let's be honest here: your issue isn't really with anybody's knowledge or playing history, that much is clear. It's all about whether they have a penis, isn't it?

 

[W.C.]

This has been annoying me off for some time. This is where a woman presenter (typically on Radio 5) can say something about a bloke (or blokes in general) that would be unacceptable if reversed.

For example

1. Woman presenter taking the mick out of a male colleague who had 'man-flu'. Had he replied about 'time of the month' he'd doubtless be off the air rather quickly.



It's just a kind of double-standards thing.

Typical bloke eh?

Fishing?

 

[Goldstone1976]

Fishing?

Yep, I suppose that remains one of the few sports with no female commentators.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

This has been annoying me off for some time. This is where a woman presenter (typically on Radio 5) can say something about a bloke (or blokes in general) that would be unacceptable if reversed.

For example

1. Woman presenter taking the mick out of a male colleague who had 'man-flu'. Had he replied about 'time of the month' he'd doubtless be off the air rather quickly.

2. Today I was listening to Radio 4. The discussion was about Jeremy Corbin. The presenter said that Corbin was still odds-on favourite despite not getting the support of his wife (who will be voting for Smith). Can you imagine the response had it been a female politician standing and someone mentioned that her husband wasn't supporting her?


It's just a kind of double-standards thing.

Typical bloke eh?

Fantastic! Let's totally sanitize any humour whatsoever. I despair of posts like this, I really do.

 

[desprateseagull]

Calm down, dears..

 

[Tom Bombadil]

 

[pastafarian]

I'll tell you what irritates me. The BBC appears to have more women than men presenting the sports news on TV and hosting football programmes. Why? The sports they're reporting on are almost all male sports which they have little knowledge of. As for presenting football shows and interviewing managers and players. What? I want someone who understands the game and, preferably, has played it to be hosting these programmes. Ergo a bloke. There would undoubtedly be a big fuss if netball played almost exclusively by women was a major sport and the games were fronted by male presenters on TV.

you seem a bit all over the shop here chap.

I can only talk with what i know but a female member of my immediate family(thats all im revealing) is a regular on TV and radio doing exactly what you dont like as mentioned above.
She regularly is placed or commissioned to talk about some sports that are deemed to be male dominated.She has over the years studied her balls off to be as completely informed about the sport she is covering,her knowledge is encyclopedic when she does an interview. This isnt done to look good, its done to be as professional a presenter as you can be be and cause a connection between the person being interviewed and the person sitting at home viewing or listening.She is bloody good at her job(obviously biased)

You really can understand the game in question if you are a woman even if you havnt played. The Amex has 25000 experts every home game ranging all ages and genders.Some old values chap are best tossed in the bin, thinking sports presenters should be blokes is probably one of them.

 

[Hillian1]

I wonder if the woman the op is talking about is the same woman just interviewed on breakfast who has just claimed that if men had period pains it would be looked at as a badge of honour.

 

[pasty]

Think you will find its not a Beeb thing, its across most of the media

TV advertising is probably the worst culprit. Can you imagine an advert getting to air along the lines of 4 or 5 men in an office rushing to the window to ogle a beautiful semi-naked woman drinking a diet coke at 11:30?

 

[goldstone]

Well, there's an exception to every rule. But it doesn't change the indisputable fact that many many more men than women are interested in the game of football and many many more men than women have played the game. Therefore it makes sense for the vast majority of presenters/interviewers to be male. And in fact I have difficulty taking a woman presenter/interviewer seriously as they clearly do not have the same level of involvement and interest in the game.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

This has been annoying me off for some time. This is where a woman presenter (typically on Radio 5) can say something about a bloke (or blokes in general) that would be unacceptable if reversed.

For example

1. Woman presenter taking the mick out of a male colleague who had 'man-flu'. Had he replied about 'time of the month' he'd doubtless be off the air rather quickly.

2. Today I was listening to Radio 4. The discussion was about Jeremy Corbin. The presenter said that Corbin was still odds-on favourite despite not getting the support of his wife (who will be voting for Smith). Can you imagine the response had it been a female politician standing and someone mentioned that her husband wasn't supporting her?


It's just a kind of double-standards thing.

Typical bloke eh?

I think you are being fairly over-sensitive.

I don't think you can really compare the "wrong time of the month" thing with man-flu. Women can't really avoid what goes on once a month and, being the father of two girls, one realises it can be really debilitating.

And do you really think that a man or woman would be taken to task for not standing by their husband or wife or partner if they were in a heavyweight political situation. On reflection, you might be right, but if a wife doesn't agree with what her politician husband is doing, then she should be true to hrself, not to him..... and the same would go in reverse. If my wife didn't agree with something I was doing, she would tell me and, if it was something that "mattered", she would not hide her views if asked.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

TV advertising is probably the worst culprit. Can you imagine an advert getting to air along the lines of 4 or 5 men in an office rushing to the window to ogle a beautiful semi-naked woman drinking a diet coke at 11:30?

I was going to say something similar. Half the adverts on TV portray blokes as useless individuals incapable of turning on a washing machine. It's actually pretty disgraceful in this day & age. If an advert portrayed a woman as being unable to kick a football there would be uproar.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

duplicate

 

[spring hall convert]

This has been annoying me off for some time. This is where a woman presenter (typically on Radio 5) can say something about a bloke (or blokes in general) that would be unacceptable if reversed.

For example

1. Woman presenter taking the mick out of a male colleague who had 'man-flu'. Had he replied about 'time of the month' he'd doubtless be off the air rather quickly.

2. Today I was listening to Radio 4. The discussion was about Jeremy Corbin. The presenter said that Corbin was still odds-on favourite despite not getting the support of his wife (who will be voting for Smith). Can you imagine the response had it been a female politician standing and someone mentioned that her husband wasn't supporting her?


It's just a kind of double-standards thing.

Typical bloke eh?

Poor white dudes, can't catch a break, huh?

 

[spring hall convert]

Getting a bit fed up with how much more likely on average a woman is to be raped than a man.

They're probably all asking for it though.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

This has been annoying me off for some time. This is where a woman presenter (typically on Radio 5) can say something about a bloke (or blokes in general) that would be unacceptable if reversed.

For example

1. Woman presenter taking the mick out of a male colleague who had 'man-flu'. Had he replied about 'time of the month' he'd doubtless be off the air rather quickly.

2. Today I was listening to Radio 4. The discussion was about Jeremy Corbin. The presenter said that Corbin was still odds-on favourite despite not getting the support of his wife (who will be voting for Smith). Can you imagine the response had it been a female politician standing and someone mentioned that her husband wasn't supporting her?


It's just a kind of double-standards thing.

Typical bloke eh?

I was once unfortunate enough to see 5 mins of Loose Women - it was just anti-male vitriol the whole time, none of which they would have got away with if they were men talking about women.

Just the way it is sadly, there is no level playing field.

 

[pastafarian]

Getting a bit fed up with how much more likely on average a woman is to be raped than a man.

They're probably all asking for it though.

its almost as boring as the feminist idiots that claim there is a rape culture at universities.
not quite as dull though as the feminist morons that bang on about cissgendered neoliberal white heteronormative nonbinary patriarchal imperialists ....desperate twits in need of nothing more than a good dicking.......possibly in a safe space.

 

[Triggaaar]

This has been annoying me off for some time. This is where a woman presenter (typically on Radio 5) can say something about a bloke (or blokes in general) that would be unacceptable if reversed.

I think it's because there have been millennia of discrimination against women, which we're trying to end. So taking the piss out of men is easier to take as tongue in cheek, whereas taking the piss out of women is easily confused with reverting back to a sexist past.

1. Woman presenter taking the mick out of a male colleague who had 'man-flu'. Had he replied about 'time of the month' he'd doubtless be off the air rather quickly.

The thing with that example is that 'man-flu' is a joke, it's not real. It's difficult to get offended by it.

2. Today I was listening to Radio 4. The discussion was about Jeremy Corbin. The presenter said that Corbin was still odds-on favourite despite not getting the support of his wife (who will be voting for Smith). Can you imagine the response had it been a female politician standing and someone mentioned that her husband wasn't supporting her?

Yes, I think the same thing would happen. It's completely unthinkable that a party leader's partner would vote for another candidate.

I agree there are double standards, possibly for the reason I gave above, but I don't think your two examples are good ones.

 

[The Clamp]

A lot of men don't do us any favours. Playing computer games, riding around on skateboards, getting excited about Star Wars films. Go into some 30 something parents living room and it's hard to tell what bits belong to the kid and what belongs to the Dad. Grow up.

Having said that women can be dicks too.