vegster
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Someone, somewhere, understands this. Meanwhile what do you know about Pardew ? you seem pissed enough to be indiscreet.
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gerrard, one of the greatest modern footballers
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Someone, somewhere, understands this. Meanwhile what do you know about Pardew ? you seem pissed enough to be indiscreet.
Working class pride
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I dont know anything about Pardew, I only know a rumour that I expect you already know if you cast your mind back or if you ask a few people they will tell you, and like you or them I dont even know if its true.
vegster
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yep, bit of Handbags and a minor car crash, but certainly not a model pro by todays standards. I don't think he even has a tattoo.
Gullflyinghigh
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Indeed it is (though Saint & Greavsie are a bit before my time) and indeed he did!
Just for the sake of clarity; I'm completely with you on the Scholes side of things, he was one of the best midfielders in the modern game, I'm just saying that Gerrard shouldn't be judged as mediocre for not matching up to him as very few players do/did/will. It'd be like saying Aguero doesn't measure up to Messi so probably isn't all that, which is clearly not the case.
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Dorset Seagull
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I did here a very amusing story on Talksport about him that did change my perception of him to a degree
Great player. One of my favourites in 25 years of watching football.
Consistently brilliant for Liverpool for years and massively under rated for England. Better than Scholes IMO.
Consistently brilliant for Liverpool for years and massively under rated for England. Better than Scholes IMO.
He has a bimbo wife though
vegster
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Well, that clears things up nicely, or maybe not or is that a cryptic clue ? I suppose we had best give up as I think you can't remember anyway.
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Yes OK I'm being a bit harsh on Gerrard, its a reaction to the press and some people talking about him as if he was Ronaldo or Pele or someone. He wasnt even the best English midfielder as Scholes was, never mind world class.
vegster
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What footballer hasn't ?
Gullflyinghigh
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I get where you're coming from, it's a similar reaction to the one I have when people tell me how huge a club Leeds still are.
Bit harsh considering he only missed out on one major club honour. Most footballers can only dream of such a record.
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I would probably annoy you there as I remember them as a big club and still look at them that way. Its great we get similar gates as them despite our lack of success. Says everything about the Albion. But yes, Leeds are not the Leeds of the 70's or 80's. As for Gerrard, nothing against him as a player, the best of his ilk, but h's just the wrong type of player for me and until we learn that, then we will never have a decent England side. The Scholes thing and playing him out wide was such a hash up but it was always about how do we make the team fit around Gerrard. As usual the press and manager were asking the wrong question and wondered why they couldnt find the right answer.
vegster
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Most of the greats of the modern game have numerous domestic leage title medals though.
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Not if they spent their career at Liverpool.
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Gerard is another one of a long line of liverpool players who the media cream themselves over but who never proved to be the real deal at international level.
Up there with Barnes as the most overrated England player of all time.
Up there with Barnes as the most overrated England player of all time.
Didn't they also say Messi was the player of the 2014 World Cup?