General Photography thread

[Thecoffeecake]

That's a new one on me. You might as well mess up the exposure and put a rosette on it.

Film is an entirely different medium, dog.

 

[Uncle C]

Took this the other evening of the full moon

 

[Triggaaar]

Film is an entirely different medium, dog.

I've shot plenty of film. Imperfections weren't part of the plan.

 

[Thecoffeecake]

I've shot plenty of film. Imperfections weren't part of the plan.

Then we have different ideas of what film is. If you want something to be perfect and look a very specific way, that's what digital is for.

 

[Triggaaar]

Then we have different ideas of what film is.

It appears so.

If you want something to be perfect and look a very specific way, that's what digital is for.

People tried to make their photos look right for decades using film before digital came about. Landscape photographers would obviously use a tripod and try and get the horizon right. It was never the intention to have imperfections. Landscape photographers would generally use low ISO film so the grain wasn't noticeable, if possible, not ISO 400.

Now we're in the digital age, you might want to have the grain and colour qualities from film, to provide a particular look. That doesn't mean you'd want the horizon to be off though, that makes no sense.

 

[PeterOut]

That's a new one on me. You might as well mess up the exposure and put a rosette on it.

So what is the problem you have with the shot? Exposure, grain, DoF, contrast, colouring, subject matter, straightness of the horizon..... or are you now simply trying to justify your original off-hand and haughty comments?

 

[perseus]

Excellent! You could do with a better Small Copper too!! Did you sort out the auto-focus problem?
I don't know what settings you had your camera on, but I use the ones that Bob Eade suggested to me, and if you look at his wonderful photos on Flickr, you'll see why.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/128888346@N02/albums/72157687317620240
He also shoots Nikon and uses a 105mm lens.
I think the secret is getting about 12"-18" from the butterfly and getting the angle of your lens exactly the same as the subject. Also, to get that lovely clean background, try to find an uncluttered area behind the subject. Take a pair of scissors with you to trim any odd pieces of grass.

D3200 does not do auto-focus and really I ought have got the eyes in focus. Auto-focus is better than my eyes. Debating whether to get a D7200 or D7500?

I experimented with different settings:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/shoreham/37349668412/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/shoreham/37379306341/

Note the varying aperture in autumn lighting.

I really need auto-focus as it is hard enough finding chasing the butterflies w/o manual focusing problems.

I do not necessarily like an isolated butterfly on a plain background. I prefer something more than a portrait.

 

[Kneon Light]

Just back from 17 day shoot along the Great Silk Road in Uzbekistan. Over 8000 images to go through.

Here's the Registan in Samarkand

View attachment 90902

I feel your pain - still going through 8000+ from Kenya!

Amazing shot by the way!

 

[Jack Straw]

Starlings over the West Pier this evening.
Full size image here https://www.flickr.com/photos/128321708@N03/24400607128/in/photostream/lightbox/

 

[Perry's Tracksuit Bottoms]

Starlings over the West Pier this evening.

THAT is completely brilliant

 

[Jack Straw]

THAT is completely brilliant

Thank you very much.

 

[Jack Straw]

D3200 does not do auto-focus and really I ought have got the eyes in focus. Auto-focus is better than my eyes. Debating whether to get a D7200 or D7500?

I experimented with different settings:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/shoreham/37349668412/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/shoreham/37379306341/

Note the varying aperture in autumn lighting.

I really need auto-focus as it is hard enough finding chasing the butterflies w/o manual focusing problems.

I do not necessarily like an isolated butterfly on a plain background. I prefer something more than a portrait.

If you make me an offer I can't refuse, you could have my D7200. I would then put the proceeds towards a D7500.

 

[Triggaaar]

So what is the problem you have with the shot? Exposure, grain, DoF, contrast, colouring, subject matter, straightness of the horizon.....

I already said in my original post.

or are you now simply trying to justify your original off-hand and haughty comments?

Haughty? I said 'It needs a touch of straightening', nothing more than that. Do you have anything to add from a photographic point of view?

 

[Thecoffeecake]

It appears so.
People tried to make their photos look right for decades using film before digital came about. Landscape photographers would obviously use a tripod and try and get the horizon right. It was never the intention to have imperfections. Landscape photographers would generally use low ISO film so the grain wasn't noticeable, if possible, not ISO 400.

Now we're in the digital age, you might want to have the grain and colour qualities from film, to provide a particular look. That doesn't mean you'd want the horizon to be off though, that makes no sense.

Yes well I coach goalkeepers for a living, I'm not a professional photographer, and I don't own a tripod. I was just sharing a film shot of my hometown that I appreciate.

Go find any online community dedicated to film and you'll see the shots that are best received often have imperfections, because that's what gives film a special character today in the digital age. You don't edit film, it's an absolute snapshot of that point in time, and that's one of the things people appreciate about it.

Christ, I didn't realize this thread was for critical analysis.

Also, hang on a minute, you realize this is a picture of sandy dunes, right? The only thing that can confirm the straightness is the ocean to the far right. Unless you're using the tiniest level that exists, I can't possibly understand where your first comment is coming from.

 

[perseus]

Does anyone shoot film?

Main film camera broke down on 2 April 2001. Buying the first digital camera was a revelation. Better shots immediately with a point and shoot. Affordable cameras for difficult specialised shots were expensive and not so good for years though. Film was more forgiving and that includes scanned slides which come out well if OK in the first place.

I think film has been completely out of the question for five years now. Flash photography metering has caught up. That was better on film for ages.

 

[perseus]

If you make me an offer I can't refuse, you could have my D7200. I would then put the proceeds towards a D7500.

I wonder if it is worth waiting for the D7600? D7500 seems like a very good camera.

 

[Thecoffeecake]

Main film camera broke down on 2 April 2001. Buying the first digital camera was a revelation. Better shots immediately with a point and shoot. Affordable cameras for difficult specialised shots were expensive and not so good for years though. Film was more forgiving and that includes scanned slides which come out well if OK in the first place.

I think film has been completely out of the question for five years now. Flash photography metering has caught up. That was better on film for ages.

Yea there's no debate that digital takes clearer and more precise pictures. Film has become an entirely separate art form at this point. No one uses it because it has any professional advantages.

 

[Triggaaar]

Christ, I didn't realize this thread was for critical analysis.

People have given suggestions on improving shots on this thread, that's all it was meant to be, I wasn't trying to offend.

Also, hang on a minute, you realize this is a picture of sandy dunes, right? The only thing that can confirm the straightness is the ocean to the far right. Unless you're using the tiniest level that exists, I can't possibly understand where your first comment is coming from.

Yes I can see what it's a picture of. When I looked at it I noticed it was off, that's all.

 

[shingle]

People have given suggestions on improving shots on this thread, that's all it was meant to be, I wasn't trying to offend.

Yes I can see what it's a picture of. When I looked at it I noticed it was off, that's all.

I would like to weigh in at this point and say also that It was the first thing that I noticed Triggaaar and had it been a digital image, straightening the horizon is the first thing I would have done before any other alterations.

Also as Triggaaar says, people on this thread are always giving suggestions and constructive criticisms and rightly so. I have been a pro photographer for years and and I was getting 'soft' images when I mounted my canon 5d and new IS lens on a heavy duty tripod for long exposure shots, couldn't work out why, till somebody on here suggested turning off the image stabilising switch on the lens for long exposures. Bingo, pin sharp images. We never stop learning.

 

[seagull_special]

looking forward to coming home for Christmas and getting some winter shots of the Old Pier