[Politics] General Election 2024 - The Poll

[Randy McNob]

Why in that case should it just be teenagers? There are plenty of adults that have no sense of civic responsibility so why not have compulsory community service for all adults right through to retirement! I suspect most of the loons calling for national service would soon baulk at it if it applied to them.

I baulk at any policy which leans towards facism

 

[Perfidious Albion]

Trouble is, I can find good reasons not to vote for any of them … so I won’t.

 

[Javeaseagull]

Bring back National Service? What's next? Presumably bring back the death penalty. You can't make this shit up and keep a straight face.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

I’m going to vote for X because they once said something nice about cats, and one time helped an elderly person cross the road, and also opened the local summer school fare, so they’re just the person I want to vote for.

These are as good a reason as any. I once lived somewhere that had a long narrow path to the front door, more than 100 feet. In local elections the only candidate who could ever be bothered to walk up the path to my front door to talk to me was the Lib Dem, and he got my vote for that reason. It said something about his attitude to the job.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Trouble is, I can find good reasons not to vote for any of them … so I won’t.

If you're happy to let someone else choose who Governs, taxes, manages access to health, social, welfare, emergency services, etc for you, then that's exactly what to do

 

[Randy McNob]

If you're happy to let someone else choose who Governs, taxes, manages access to health, social, welfare, emergency services, etc for you, then that's exactly what to do

Which is precisely what they want, the floaters to stay at home, the Tories then hope the "always vote Tory" brigade will be enough to cling on. To those that can't be bothered to vote, Just remember that when your mortgage payments go up, bills go up, waiting forever for NHS treatment etc...

 

[drew]

I baulk at any policy which leans towards facism

I agree. It's always those that won't have to go through it and probably never did that like to advocate this sort of crap.

 

[The Brighton Ace]

I’m voting for Sir Peter Bottomley, not because he’s a Tory but because in my experience he’s a compassionate, human being, who cares about all of his constituents whether they voted for him or not.

I would always support a fantastic local candidate over national politics (especially local elections), however my experience of Bottomley has been incredibly different to yours.

 

[drew]

Trouble is, I can find good reasons not to vote for any of them … so I won’t.

If you don't vote then don't bother coming on here to discuss problems with society.

 

[medwayseagull reborn]

Trouble is, I can find good reasons not to vote for any of them … so I won’t.

Best if you join the rest of the ostriches and leave this discussion alone.

 

[Randy McNob]

The choice at the ballot box is easy, anyone but the Tories. Just remember Parties at Downing street and using a pandemic to enrich them and their friends. If the electorate do not punish them and send a clear message, it will happen again

 

[Machiavelli]

I'm probably wrong ...just interested in whether there is a good analysis of what would happen with tactical voting was agreed .

Between them, Labour and Greens get about 85% of the vote in Pavilion, hence my prior somewhat OTT comment

 

[Baldrick]

I have just received a letter from the local Council Election Office stating I made multiple votes at the recent local elections. Utter nonsense. I drew a box on the ballot paper and wrote “none of the above” next to the box. I then ticked the box.

 

[nwgull]

Trouble is, I can find good reasons not to vote for any of them … so I won’t.

One of them is going to get in whatever you do, so you may as well vote for the one you dislike the least.

It’s like trying to decide who to support between Leeds and Southampton.

 

[crodonilson]

Does anyone think Rachel Reeves will play fast and loose with the public finances??

Unforgivable for anyone to do so, playing fast is one thing and playing loose another, but to do both at the same time would be a big vote loser.

 

[Surf's Up]

I've voted "other" as pretty much all politicians, irrespective of their political colour, are, imho, greedy self-serving egoists who've learnt or already possessed the art of bullshitting without giving a flying f*** for the consequences of their words unless they're self-serving. I shall write a summary of my views on the ballot paper!!

 

[Machiavelli]

Does anyone think Rachel Reeves will play fast and loose with the public finances??

Unforgivable for anyone to do so, playing fast is one thing and playing loose another, but to do both at the same time would be a big vote loser.

Thanks Crodo.
Always wise.

 

[golddene]

I've voted "other" as pretty much all politicians, irrespective of their political colour, are, imho, greedy self-serving egoists who've learnt or already possessed the art of bullshitting without giving a flying f*** for the consequences of their words unless they're self-serving. I shall write a summary of my views on the ballot paper!!

Sounds to me like you’ve had your fingers well and truly burnt by voting Tory in the recent past !! Please do not tar all other politicians of other persuasions with the same brush. They are not ‘all the same’ that’s just an easy out for those amongst us who are too embarrassed to admit they were taken in and blown out in bubbles by this current political cabal which sadly goes right back to when they were fooled by the lies perpetrated following the global banking crises and eventual defeat of New labour by Cameron propped up by the LibDems who were slowly ground down and spat out by this awful Tory cabal.

 

[GT49er]

If you're happy to let someone else choose who Governs, taxes, manages access to health, social, welfare, emergency services, etc for you, then that's exactly what to do

Someone else will anyway. Most of the time most of us don't vote for the winning side in a general election.

N.B. That's not put forward as a reason for not voting; we should all vote at every election, regardless of whether our candidate - or the party they represent - hasn't got a cat in hell's chance of getting in. Same for referendums.

 

[dsr-burnley]

I baulk at any policy which leans towards facism

I don't think it's wise (or fair) to use words like fascism over such trivialities. It trivialises actual fascism, and makes the dogma of fascism seem more acceptable to those inclined to try it.

If you tell the world "don't vote for conscription and/or public service, because then you will be fascist like (for example) Scandinavia and the Netherlands", then you risk telling people that perhaps fascism isn't so bad.

Compulsory national service isn't fascistic IMO. A bad idea, but not fascist.