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[Politics] General Election 2024 - 4th July
- Thread starter Bozza
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Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
The Tories?
I rarely write anything I don't know the meaning of or intend.
Precisely.
Clearly you haven't been paying attention. Labour have announced tax hikes but at targeted sectors. Do keep up.
- Jul 10, 2003
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Just to level that up my three children 20,24 & 29 all three at uni and don’t drive, ALL have provisional driving licences for no other reason than they use them in pubs
WTF is the 29 year old doing still at school, Aerospace engineering ?
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
I'd upgrade 'rarely' to 'never', if that helps.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
On NSC right now, it’s like you’ve covered yourself in shit, but trying to convince everyone you don’t smell.
Washie
Well-known member
Oh i'm not, but this has actually hit a lot more elderly and even they know they f***ed up with this scheme
The Clamp
Well-known member
Yeah, it didn’t do well
Cotton Socks
Skint Supporter
- Feb 20, 2017
- 2,215
It's the cheapest way to get ID & the least important when it gets lost/nicked in comparison to a passport.
medwayseagull reborn
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- Oct 12, 2022
- 516
Working towards early retirement ?WTF is the 29 year old doing still at school, Aerospace engineering ?
dolphins
Well-known member
Reminds me of the constituency boundary changes that were implemented by the Tories with *allegedly* the same sort of aim in mind...
I just heard Naga on R5 ask a labour candidate this:
"Your leader was asked what he means by "working people" (who he says won't be taxed more). He said "People who can't simply address any problem by writing a cheque". So does this mean you will increase tax for everyone with savings".
The labour candidate struggled to answer, because the answer concerns the inference based on Starmer's apparent definition of what a working person is.
Of course Starmer didn't mean that anyone with savings is not a working person, and of course Naga knows that. But who can blame her with having a bit of fun with it.
The tory she spoke to yesterday would have accused her of lefty woke nonsense (which he did). The nice labour man was left sounding unconvincing.
And people wonder why politicians in general and Stramer in particular are so careful to not say anything that can be misconstrued. Unfortunately Starmer was too responsive and insufficiently cagey, earlier. And so it goes. For a few hours the Tory faithful will have something to cheer them.
We get the politicians and the political journalists we deserve.
Machiavelli
Well-known member
RR was asked the same question on R4 Today this morning.
Indeed.
Which proves labour are unfit to govern. They are all the same. Vote conservative!
(This reminds me of that TV show in the 60s with Michael Miles, where he would ask the contestant questions for a minute and if they managed to not say 'yes' or 'no' the would win five pounds - about a grand in today's money.
Incidentally, did you know that Michael Miles is still alive?)
Trend continues with the latest (Survation this time) poll to come through:
Labour - no change (41%)
Tory - down 3 (20%)
Reform - up 3 (15%)
Petrol/diesel duty alone raises £24.7 billion per year. There is VAT on fuel as well on top of this ( they actually charge VAT on the duty as well as the basic so add 20% to the 24.7 billion ! ).
Surely we don't spend more than that on the roads per year ?
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Thought he was very shifty seems incapable of giving an answer to any questions that is contentious.Labour will hit us with taxes despite taxation being at record levels and amidst a cost of living crisis.Depressing,from one shower of shit to another.I see Starmer on LBC and matey now on Politics Live still refusing to confirm/deny Council Tax and some important IHT threshold changes for agricultural land.
'We have no plans .....'
any
The problem here is that fuel duty is collected by the government, but roads repairs and maintenance are paid for by local authorities. There's no direct connection between the duty collected and the day-to-day spending.
The Tories have gutted council budgets during austerity, leaving them in a position where they can't afford to do everything they are supposed to be responsible for. Hence the pothole problems - where 15 years ago even minor surface damage or signs of shoulder crumbling would be jumped on, they are now left until they reach ever-increasingly-larger thresholds before they qualify for repair. And we also see cost-cutting measures in the repairs themselves (which in the long run cost more, but in the short term yearly budgets are smaller) - for example the A22 through Forest Row which should have been fully resurfaced years ago (they partially resurfaced a few years back, but should have done the whole lot, and the bit they didn't do and instead tried applying a much cheaper solution for is now crumbling).
Kalimantan Gull
Well-known member
I hear the phrase 'taxation at record levels' a lot and was just wondering what it meant? Is that in pure numerical terms, or percent of GDP, or percent of income, or some figure adjusted for inflation, or what? Does it include all taxes or just some? Because it doesnt feel like we're getting much bang for our buck if we're paying more than ever before.