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JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
We have chatted on numerous occasions from 'across the garden hedge'. I enjoy the conversations. Sometimes, however, you need to step back and stop campaigning. Yes, there is a lot at stake and folk are uncertain. You may have seen my post calling for a Corbyn wipe out, before the election, so we can start again with a new labour. I was taking the broader view (which looks like it was tactically misconceived, as it happens). You won't persuade anyone by making what are frankly highly nuanced partisan point scorey posts, dragging up quotes from past persons, or persons' past(s). You lose all credibility as an unbiased (well, we are all biased....but) commentator, and just come across as a 'I'll vote for a pig if it has a blue rosette' type. I know you can do better than that!

I have long since given up trying to persuade people of anything (especially the Corbyn disciples) just get a tad annoyed at being called a hypocrite by hypocrites who would obviously vote for anyone/anything with a red rosette on. Saying that we are teetering on the political ledge and I consider it my civic duty to argue my corner against the far left apologists!

Wish the new season would start soon :D
 






lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
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Jun 11, 2011
14,089
Worthing
I have long since given up trying to persuade people of anything (especially the Corbyn disciples) just get a tad annoyed at being called a hypocrite by hypocrites who would obviously vote for anyone/anything with a red rosette on. Saying that we are teetering on the political ledge and I consider it my civic duty to argue my corner against the far left apologists!

Wish the new season would start soon :D

If this is aimed at me, even I didn't vote for Blair after Iraq.
 








Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,219
Faversham
I have long since given up trying to persuade people of anything (especially the Corbyn disciples) just get a tad annoyed at being called a hypocrite by hypocrites who would obviously vote for anyone/anything with a red rosette on. Saying that we are teetering on the political ledge and I consider it my civic duty to argue my corner against the far left apologists!

Wish the new season would start soon :D

Lol. You never give up, and I salute you for that. You slippery tory weasel, you. Enjoy your summer and UTA.

:cheers:
 


Kneon Light

Well-known member
Jul 24, 2003
1,851
Falkland Islands
The Parliamentary Labour Party are in full cry at the outrage of the Tories canoodling up to the horrible DUP but most of the very same people would have happily put up with a deal if it meant they could get into power. Rank hypocrisy?

From some - very probably. However it is not possible to know which Labour MPs were involved in this so hard to say what the level of hypocrisy is. I just think it right to speak up against such a deal (as you yourself have done)

I also wish the football season would start again soon!
 


highflyer

Well-known member
Jan 21, 2016
2,554
Politics is politics and this was a deal that had to be done. DUP drove a hard bargain as expected. But everyone knows the deal only had to be done as a result of May's hubris and incompetence. And everyone knew they were likely to take a huge hit for doing it. Which they now will. They really can't afford another election any time soon. But brexit looms and we all know what happens when the Tories and the EU collide.
My money is still on Corbyn being prime minister within a year. And the world won't end. Britain won't turn into Venezuela. We wont find the IRA under our beds. The wheels will keep turning. And who knows, we may end up with a better, fairer society. And we may even avoid relegation.



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Wrong-Direction

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2013
13,640
So that famous money tree the tories told us didn't exist, just dropped £1bn , hmm hypocrisy

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portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,955
portslade
Politics is politics and this was a deal that had to be done. DUP drove a hard bargain as expected. But everyone knows the deal only had to be done as a result of May's hubris and incompetence. And everyone knew they were likely to take a huge hit for doing it. Which they now will. They really can't afford another election any time soon. But brexit looms and we all know what happens when the Tories and the EU collide.
My money is still on Corbyn being prime minister within a year. And the world won't end. Britain won't turn into Venezuela. We wont find the IRA under our beds. The wheels will keep turning. And who knows, we may end up with a better, fairer society. And we may even avoid relegation.



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If that happens god help us. The country would soon be heading for bankruptcy as he realises all he promises just don't cost in. It will be borrow, borrow, borrow and bugger tomorrow as they try not to break them. Inflation will rocket upwards, interest rates will rise making many more homeless and the freeloaders will also kick of due to broken tuition promises.
 




highflyer

Well-known member
Jan 21, 2016
2,554
If that happens god help us. The country would soon be heading for bankruptcy as he realises all he promises just don't cost in. It will be borrow, borrow, borrow and bugger tomorrow as they try not to break them. Inflation will rocket upwards, interest rates will rise making many more homeless and the freeloaders will also kick of due to broken tuition promises.
Crikey. Bit of an overreaction to the idea of Brighton staying up. Trust in Chris!

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lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
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Jun 11, 2011
14,089
Worthing
If that happens god help us. The country would soon be heading for bankruptcy as he realises all he promises just don't cost in. It will be borrow, borrow, borrow and bugger tomorrow as they try not to break them. Inflation will rocket upwards, interest rates will rise making many more homeless and the freeloaders will also kick of due to broken tuition promises.

When was the last time we had riots under a Labour Government?2011? Nope, Tories in power, 1990, poll tax riots, nope Tories in power, 1985? Nope, Tories in power.
I can see a pattern developing here.
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
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Jul 11, 2003
62,744
The Fatherland
If that happens god help us. The country would soon be heading for bankruptcy as he realises all he promises just don't cost in. It will be borrow, borrow, borrow and bugger tomorrow as they try not to break them. Inflation will rocket upwards, interest rates will rise making many more homeless and the freeloaders will also kick of due to broken tuition promises.

Borrow, borrow, borrow, inflation rising, interest rates on the verge of increasing and scores of Londoners having to leave their town blocks. You have pretty much sumed up the bleakness of where you are after 6 years of Tory government.
 




Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,465
Hove
If that happens god help us. The country would soon be heading for bankruptcy as he realises all he promises just don't cost in. It will be borrow, borrow, borrow and bugger tomorrow as they try not to break them. Inflation will rocket upwards, interest rates will rise making many more homeless and the freeloaders will also kick of due to broken tuition promises.

#ProjectFearv2.0

Did you not learn how effective this scaremongering is from the Remain campaign!?
 




Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
So it all reduces down to Cash for Votes. £18 from every UK citizen to buy DUP votes for May.

Should be illegal.
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
When was the last time we had riots under a Labour Government?2011? Nope, Tories in power, 1990, poll tax riots, nope Tories in power, 1985? Nope, Tories in power.
I can see a pattern developing here.

To be fair Labour didn't have the Tory Shadow Chancellor calling for Insurrection and direct action against the democratically elected government.
 




JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
So it all reduces down to Cash for Votes. £18 from every UK citizen to buy DUP votes for May.

Should be illegal.

It always does .. tens of billions to buy peoples votes.

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portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,955
portslade
Borrow, borrow, borrow, inflation rising, interest rates on the verge of increasing and scores of Londoners having to leave their town blocks. You have pretty much sumed up the bleakness of where you are after 6 years of Tory government.

You mean interest rates which have been historically low for years ??? . Tower blocks where both parties are culpable Labour mostly as they run most of the local authorities ??? . Sadly you haven't seen bleakness you obviously forgot the 3day weeks and endless strikes where labour where in charge. Please remove those blinkers
 


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