General Election 2017

[Is it PotG?]

Yes - and if it is a hung parliament then maybe for this period of Brexit this maybe what we need - a true cross party parliament.
The Tory party are at real risk of imploding - Both Brexit and the GE was entirely about their own internal power struggles as well as to cynically grab more power. The electorate smelt a rat - now with grubby deals that are hypocritical and crass, the sense of disconnect with growing numbers of the electorate will I fear cement their downfall


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There already is a hung Parliament though. Shall we do best of 3?

 

[lawros left foot]

I don't get it. One has been cobbled together, but not to all tastes.

If, a big if, the Tory Government can keep going, then we have an election in 2022, if, as most people think, they fall before then, a new general election could throw up a different result, and make for different bedmates.
We have only ever had three hung parliament s in this country, so, they arent that common.

 

[The Upper Library]

There already is a hung Parliament though. Shall we do best of 3?

What we have at the moment will not last - so we either say sh*t or bust I suppose. Brexit is too important for it to get side tracked by party politics - therefore a rainbow cabinet?
The reality is that once the dust settles I have a feeling that the Tory party will never recover from the inevitable public/political fallout


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[Is it PotG?]

If, a big if, the Tory Government can keep going, then we have an election in 2022, if, as most people think, they fall before then, a new general election could throw up a different result, and make for different bedmates.
We have only ever had three hung parliament s in this country, so, they arent that common.

So let's say we have another go, Jezza wins in a 'hung'. He has said 'no deals' etc...who would he be likely to end up in bed with?

 

[Is it PotG?]

What we have at the moment will not last - so we either say sh*t or bust I suppose. Brexit is too important for it to get side tracked by party politics - therefore a rainbow cabinet?
The reality is that once the dust settles I have a feeling that the Tory party will never recover from the inevitable public/political fallout


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...and if there were one with Labour and whoever...it WOULD last?

 

[lawros left foot]

Is that good or bad, or should we revert to a Blair type Labour Party? After all, Jezza's determination and resilience was illustrated when they tried to hoof him out.

Corbyn was voted in as Labour Leader by a huge majority, the members like him, and they are the ones who choose. The PLP is out of step with the rest of the party, so, how you 'revert' to a Blair type, I fail to understand. BTW, it was the PLP who tried to hoof him out, not the party members.

 

[bWize]

...and if there were one with Labour and whoever...it WOULD last?

Serious question but how old are you?

 

[Is it PotG?]

Serious question but how old are you?

Over 40. Relevance?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Just heard the DUP can go back for more money after 2 years?

 

[Kneon Light]

So let's say we have another go, Jezza wins in a 'hung'. He has said 'no deals' etc...who would he be likely to end up in bed with?

Dianne Abbott?

 

[bWize]

Over 40. Relevance?

Just you sounded like you have the political capacity of someone much younger (or far older). Not a dig, merely an observation, pal!

 

[lawros left foot]

So let's say we have another go, Jezza wins in a 'hung'. He has said 'no deals' etc...who would he be likely to end up in bed with?

SNP, or the Lib Dems spring to mind, neither are that far apart politically, what Labour would have to concede, maybe another Indyref, for the SNP, maybe, more income tax direct to the NHS for the lib dems, who knows.
More of a possibility is a popular alliance against the Tories during the election.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Just you sound like you have the political capacity of someone much younger. Not a dig, merely an observation, pal!

Thanks. All down to opinion, chum.

 

[bWize]

Thanks. All down to opinion, chum.

Indeed, it's why we need the thumbs down feature back

 

[The Upper Library]

...and if there were one with Labour and whoever...it WOULD last?

Who knows - but by calling the Brexit ref and GE and the reasons behind them the Tory party are being seen to be only interested in their own gains - whether that is true or not doesn't really matter. The fact is they are being perceived by growing numbers to be out of touch etc. I cannot see how this can be turned around - so we have a Brexit vote, a hung parliament and a weakening gov all because one party's selfish use of power. Brilliant.


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[Bold Seagull]

Corbyn was voted in as Labour Leader by a huge majority, the members like him, and they are the ones who choose. The PLP is out of step with the rest of the party, so, how you 'revert' to a Blair type, I fail to understand. BTW, it was the PLP who tried to hoof him out, not the party members.

The PLP and the rest of the party will no doubt unify behind him now, and any doubts that the UK would not vote for a socialist leaning manifesto has had that doubt put to rest, despite a vitriolic campaign by the press that actually has intelligent people believing he is a terrorist sympathiser. More often than not he has been on the right side of history, the Iraq war, the bombing of Libya (The foreign affairs committee chair Crispin Blunt delivering its excoriating verdict on David Cameron’s Libyan adventure), people are choosing to believe a man of principles, who has striven for peace through dialogue not bombs or bullets, over the media portrayal that has worn thin to the point of caricature. Party Conference in Brighton in September should see a transformed party with a clear supported vision for the UK.

 

[Billy the Fish]

I think this deal stinks (before anyone misrepresents me) but judging by some of the comments on here some of you seem to think the Tories have paid each DUP MP into their personal bank account. It'll go into infrastructure in one of the poorest regions in the county. By all means criticise it, but please spare us the nonsense about hiring extra nurses.

 

[BensGrandad]

Held another election

To have Labour telling more lies about students loans without saying how they would be paid for and obtain the same result., Whats the point let her muddle on and hopefully as seats become vacant through dearth etc she may win some more and gain an increased majority.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

To have Labour telling more lies about students loans without saying how they would be paid for and obtain the same result., Whats the point let her muddle on and hopefully as seats become vacant through dearth etc she may win some more and gain an increased majority.

That was a manifesto pledge which you could make your mind up about and vote accordingly. This grubby shabby self-serving deal with the DUP wasn't. In fact most of the manifesto pledges the Tories supporters did vote on have been cast aside.

 

[Kneon Light]

To have Labour telling more lies about students loans without saying how they would be paid for and obtain the same result., Whats the point let her muddle on and hopefully as seats become vacant through dearth etc she may win some more and gain an increased majority.

Talking of lies - Labour had the only costed manifesto so clearly DID say how they would be paid for.