General Election 2017

[East Preston Gull]

Tories won the election and Tess has a right to form a government

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[pb21]

Someone needs to switch her off and on again; certainty

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Maybe she should take a leaf out of Corbyn's book .. even if a big majority of your own party MP's vote and say you're not up to the job carry on regardless pretend nothing has happenned.

 

[Triggaaar]

The DUP fully back upholding The Good Friday Agreement post-Brexit, so it'll be very interesting to see what happens over it. This is politically very dangerous for The DUP if it goes wrong as well as being very dangerous for Northern Ireland.

Labour also support Brexit on the back of the referendum, so the Tories can work on a deal that will be acceptable to Labour, it doesn't have to have the backing of the DUP. That may be optimistic, but Brexit is happening and both main parties want a deal to be done.

 

[btnbelle]

Surely the EU will think it can come between the Tory's and the DUP?

 

[Triggaaar]

Conduct the negotiations yes, seal the deal, no.

Ok, but

why have people called for May to guarantee that EU nationals can stay, if that's not in her power to do anyway?

 

[Da Man Clay]

Some seem to be pretty sore that the "wrong person" was standing in front of the ranks of the world's media in Downing Street this lunchtime.

Chins up lads - it's Friday.

Come on Boz - You can't seriously think that speech was anything but odd? Oblivious to the chaos going on around her.

It's a positive for the country we seem to have a reasonable opposition at least. I don't think JC was the man to lead the country, however, I'm not certain May is either after this uncertainty entirely made of her own doing.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Labour also support Brexit on the back of the referendum, so the Tories can work on a deal that will be acceptable to Labour, it doesn't have to have the backing of the DUP. That may be optimistic, but Brexit is happening and both main parties want a deal to be done.

True. The DUP also back Brexit. I don't know why Northern Ireland should suffer over a hard Brexit though. The Good Friday Agreement is worth more, I just hope The DUP have some influence over it.

 

[Mellotron]

I think it is a bit unfair to imply that young voters are only voting for Corbyn and the Labour party because of free tuition fees. There was a large movement towards Corbyn way before the manifesto was announced and I think they are voting for not only their own personal circumstances but also what they feel will be a fairer society.

Personally I think it is fantastic that they are engaging in politics and what will shape their future. I have no more problem with their optimistic progressive thinking as I have with an older voter who might lean towards more conservative (small c) thinking. I think the balance and future direction comes from the discussion between all generations.

I love/am really depressed by the idea that people cannot fathom the concept of people voting not in their self interest. A huge number of people I know who are post uni age moved over to Corbyn's Labour from Tory or undecided. "Ah, it's just cos they love free stuff" - is completely ignorant and makes those saying it appear embarrassingly out of touch with the young electorate.

 

[East Preston Gull]

Tories won the election and Tess has a right to form a government. Just remember that Corbyn was short of seats to win so cannot in any way form a government. This refusal to accept a loss is spreading from the Democrats and is poisoning people's minds.
She has been forced to tone down the Brexit stance now and will probably get the result she wanted any way.

Much to my disgust we will not be leaving the EU. The real May has just stood up.

Death of the SNP and a rebirth of Ukip is now the future.

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[Bold Seagull]

Ok, but

But what, are were going to discuss what every other person is saying? Crikey, I'll get some more coffee on.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Labour also support Brexit on the back of the referendum, so the Tories can work on a deal that will be acceptable to Labour, it doesn't have to have the backing of the DUP. That may be optimistic, but Brexit is happening and both main parties want a deal to be done.

Exactly why I wanted a hung parliament. If May negotiates something that will be contentious with her own back benchers, something unappealing to her new friends or, as mentioned earlier, a few of her party can't make it to parliament for whatever reason it'll end up rejected. But if the politicians can take a potentially divisive situation and use it to work together and compromise then it should fly thorough with all party support. Very hard Brexit is now off the cards. Ditto the Norway option IMO. We should get something relatively acceptable to all because both major parties will need to buy in.

 

[Stato]

Some seem to be pretty sore that the "wrong person" was standing in front of the ranks of the world's media in Downing Street this lunchtime.

I would guess that most of the people thinking that are at Conservative Central Office. We all know how the Tory party works. They will support her now to stabilise party position, but there will be a reckoning and it will be bloody and brutal.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

we will not be leaving the EU.

When was this big news announced?

I missed that.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Come on Boz - You can't seriously think that speech was anything but odd? Oblivious to the chaos going on around her.

It's a positive for the country we seem to have a reasonable opposition at least. I don't think JC was the man to lead the country, however, I'm not certain May is either after this uncertainty entirely made of her own doing.

Not sure how chaos going on is a positive for the country as we start Brexit negotiations or that Labour will suddenly morph into a united effective opposition. Saying that I doub't Tory MP's will be ironically cheering JC at the next PMQ's

 

[Mellotron]

He has the same chance as Corbyn and McDonnell.

#NotTheWinningButTheTakingPart

Coming across incredibly bitter, fella. Give it up.

 

[Bozza]

Come on Boz - You can't seriously think that speech was anything but odd? Oblivious to the chaos going on around her.

It's a positive for the country we seem to have a reasonable opposition at least. I don't think JC was the man to lead the country, however, I'm not certain May is either after this uncertainty entirely made of her own doing.

All I'll say is if the roles were reversed and it was Labour and, say, the Greens instead of the Conservatives and the DUP then I would expect Corbyn to do exactly as May has just done.

In front of the ranks of the media and having just returned from Buckingham Palace is never going to be the time nor place to do anything more than what we've just seen.

If you were looking for some dressed up version of "Blimey, that all went a bit worse than I thought. How embarrassing for me. What a pickle I'm in now." you were always going to be disappointed.

 

[Paul Reids Sock]

I love/am really depressed by the idea that people cannot fathom the concept of people voting not in their self interest. A huge number of people I know who are post uni age moved over to Corbyn's Labour from Tory or undecided.

Same here. I know a hell of a lot of people that voted Labour and none of them are university age and all are late twenties - mid fifties. I personally took a lot of grief from some Tories I am working with with the questions of 'why would you vote for someone that will tax you more?'. Apparently because I am a firm supported of the NHS wasn't good enough.

Worth noting that last time out I voted Conservative because my local MP was ruddy brilliant

 

[LlcoolJ]

Tories won the election and Tess has a right to form a government. Just remember that Corbyn was short of seats to win so cannot in any way form a government. This refusal to accept a loss is spreading from the Democrats and is poisoning people's minds.
She has been forced to tone down the Brexit stance now and will probably get the result she wanted any way.

Much to my disgust we will not be leaving the EU. The real May has just stood up.

Death of the SNP and a rebirth of Ukip is now the future.

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Er, what?

 

[Bozza]

Coming across incredibly bitter, fella. Give it up.

Bitter?

Once again, I'm delighted that May has got what she deserved.

I'm just not a blinkered myopic one party man. I'm not going to apologise for being able to criticise both sides, just because most are unable to see much wrong in their chosen party.