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Wrong-Direction

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2013
13,640
Ha did anyone just see the bloke in the audience say "total bollocks"

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Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,513
Worthing
Given that the negotiations have hardly begun, I am amazed that you could come to this conclusion.

Because even the best possible deal for the U.K. Under Brexit will weaken us compared to us having remained. I know democracy ...... Brexit must be implemented and all that, but the best we can get is still going to leave us worse off. Hence me saying, " The damage has already been done"
 




pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,689
She isn't coming across as either strong or stable, definitely on the ropes, but no KO blows landed.
 


Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,324
Living In a Box
It is conservatives to lose and Saint Theresa is contributing hugely to it
 








vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
Lots of 'we won't commit to anything so when we go back on it after the election you can't moan'

Also not much answering of questions.

This.

Lots of talking to the experts and communities about their needs about a sensible level of XYZ...... but after the election we need to make a decision so the " Bloody Difficult " woman will do what she wants.
 


Tarpon

Well-known member
Sep 12, 2013
3,801
BN1
Will Paxman be even handed? Place your bets.
 




Hastings gull

Well-known member
Nov 23, 2013
4,652
Because even the best possible deal for the U.K. Under Brexit will weaken us compared to us having remained. I know democracy ...... Brexit must be implemented and all that, but the best we can get is still going to leave us worse off. Hence me saying, " The damage has already been done"

Given the complexity of the whole situation, why not just wait and see before you jump to such a conclusion. You may be right, but equally, you may be pleasantly surprised. We have heard much posturing on all sides and I can't say definitely what how it will turn out -and nor can you!
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,025
Yeah because the Tories won't hold out for stuff as well. For example, they will demand no free movement, and be hostage to whatever demands the eu make.

you seem to misunderstand, when we leave the EU free movement ends. the negotiations are for what we put in to the new agreement between us and the EU, not what bits of the EU we want to remove.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,189
Faversham
Oh dear. May and Brexit . . . :wozza:

Same type of question about changing your mind as Corbyn faced. Corbyn cracked it. May is . . . er, ****ed!
 




Husty

Mooderator
Oct 18, 2008
11,998
Decent performance from May as well to be fair, certainly less warm than Corbyn but has anyone ever voted Tory because they're nice? Have they ****.
 




Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
57,313
Back in Sussex
Oh dear. May and Brexit . . . :wozza:

Same type of question about changing your mind as Corbyn faced. Corbyn cracked it. May is . . . er, ****ed!

You must be watching a different programme to me.

I'm no May fan at all, but she did well on what was a ridiculous line of questioning. Whether May was for or against Brexit is really neither here nor there now. She has been charged with (and is likely to still be charged with) leading the Brexit process. Any leader of the country, Corbyn included, would have to do the same.
 


Husty

Mooderator
Oct 18, 2008
11,998
I wonder whether it will be of any benefit to Corbyn going first in that people will have watched his half of the show, liked what they had seen but then got bored and switched over? Truth is nobody who is genuinely undecided watches these things, it is just for the politically engaged ones who will already have an entrenched view.
 




Jim D

Well-known member
Jul 23, 2003
5,268
Worthing
Because even the best possible deal for the U.K. Under Brexit will weaken us compared to us having remained. I know democracy ...... Brexit must be implemented and all that, but the best we can get is still going to leave us worse off. Hence me saying, " The damage has already been done"

You are probably correct in the short term but we've got look further ahead than that. We'll need time to setup the trade deals with others and we may find the only way is to fall back on WTO rules. It's also important to understand that it would be equally bad for the EU countries - perhaps worse as they export more to us than we do to them - so they would be under pressure to agree a mutually beneficial deal as much as we would. The other point is that we were in the EU for over 40 years and it took some time to get to this position. So we shouldn't worry too much if it takes a few years to get back to normal.
 




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