kevo
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- Mar 8, 2008
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They could well lose a couple of by-elections, too. They are lucky the SNP collapsed in Scotland and the SDLP in Northern Ireland.
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General Election 2017
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They could well lose a couple of by-elections, too. They are lucky the SNP collapsed in Scotland and the SDLP in Northern Ireland.
Blackadder
Brighton Bhuna Boy
UK Politics in turmoil? Europe not having a clue what's going on regarding Brexit?
From Russia's point of view, what's not to like?
The Next PM market on Betfair has re-opened. I'm guessing, given the rules...
"Who will be the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom when the first government is formed after the next UK general election. This market will be settled on the formation of the first ministry (government) after assent is given by the reigning monarch after the next UK general election."
...that they do not determine that Theresa May has formed a government yet, and the odds suggest at least a small amount of doubt that she will as May is currently 1/8. When they suspended the market earlier she was 1/50.
Can anyone see her either having a change of heart or the Tory Party kicking her out straight away?
"Who will be the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom when the first government is formed after the next UK general election. This market will be settled on the formation of the first ministry (government) after assent is given by the reigning monarch after the next UK general election."
...that they do not determine that Theresa May has formed a government yet, and the odds suggest at least a small amount of doubt that she will as May is currently 1/8. When they suspended the market earlier she was 1/50.
Can anyone see her either having a change of heart or the Tory Party kicking her out straight away?
It's pretty strange, I can't see how the party will put up with her. Following the campaigns, there were rumbles before the election and some of those interviews with tories last night it seemed they were calling for her head to me, some were less than subtle and they were all distancing themselves from her and her campaign. I just can't see how she can hang on with that lot behind her. They're going to make her life very difficult if she does stay and that is rubbish for all of us.
A change of heart seems unlikely, given the tone of her 'victory' speech, but I'd not be willing to take those odds, given that she may not have the choice.
pasty
A different kind of pasty
No. Neither. The very last thing the Tories need now is a leadership battle.
studio150
Well-known member
From a Mrs May election speech
Britain is about to enter into the most important negotiations of my lifetime. They begin just eleven days after polling day. And the European Union is already adopting an aggressive negotiating position.
That’s why, now more than ever, Britain needs a strong government and a strong Prime Minister capable of standing up to Brussels. Your vote is more important than ever. Because every vote for me in this election will – if I’m returned as Prime Minister – strengthen my hand in the negotiations that are about to start. But if you don’t vote at this election – and if you don’t vote for me in this election – you risk sleepwalking into the very real danger that Jeremy Corbyn will find himself in the hotseat, in the negotiating chair, on your behalf. I only have to lose six seats in this election for that to happen. And the consequences for Britain, if that did happen, would be dire.
A weak and unstable Prime Minister, propped up by the Liberal Democrats and the SNP. A coalition of chaos, unable and unwilling to get the best deal for Britain. Consisting of political parties who disagree with Brexit and want to unpick the referendum result.
Don’t let them steal your votes in last year’s referendum. Don’t let them make a mess of these negotiations. Don’t sleepwalk into that danger. Because what last night’s television debate brought home in Technicolor was that only we have the will – and the plan – to make a success of Brexit.
Whoops, and for some reason Mrs May and her weak and wobbly minority Government still believe they can get the best deal for Britain,
The first PMQ should be a blockbuster
Britain is about to enter into the most important negotiations of my lifetime. They begin just eleven days after polling day. And the European Union is already adopting an aggressive negotiating position.
That’s why, now more than ever, Britain needs a strong government and a strong Prime Minister capable of standing up to Brussels. Your vote is more important than ever. Because every vote for me in this election will – if I’m returned as Prime Minister – strengthen my hand in the negotiations that are about to start. But if you don’t vote at this election – and if you don’t vote for me in this election – you risk sleepwalking into the very real danger that Jeremy Corbyn will find himself in the hotseat, in the negotiating chair, on your behalf. I only have to lose six seats in this election for that to happen. And the consequences for Britain, if that did happen, would be dire.
A weak and unstable Prime Minister, propped up by the Liberal Democrats and the SNP. A coalition of chaos, unable and unwilling to get the best deal for Britain. Consisting of political parties who disagree with Brexit and want to unpick the referendum result.
Don’t let them steal your votes in last year’s referendum. Don’t let them make a mess of these negotiations. Don’t sleepwalk into that danger. Because what last night’s television debate brought home in Technicolor was that only we have the will – and the plan – to make a success of Brexit.
Whoops, and for some reason Mrs May and her weak and wobbly minority Government still believe they can get the best deal for Britain,
The first PMQ should be a blockbuster
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
May speaks as if she has the DUP in her handbag whilst Foster is a little less keen at the moment
Machiavelli
Well-known member
The Tory Party are ruthless with leaders (unlike Labour) and the 1922 Committee are key players in such events, but in the short-term at least, May will stay. With Brexit negotiations starting in ten days time, they (May, 1922, MPs and the party more widely) need to focus. We've had to endure two campaigns as a result of internal party interests and the public won't look any more favourably in them subjecting them to further requirements. They've made their bed, and will have to sleep in it. The real problem will start once the details of the Brexit negotiations start coming out, with the Tories themselves (plus maybe the DUP) splitting or being precariously kept together, and the right-wing press raging rampant. Quite simply, the Brexit deal will be a lot worse than the pup we've been sold, and that's when the fan and the faeces will have their messy meeting.
In Lewes, every second window has a 'Vote Lib Dem' banner and there is a smattering of Green Party and Labour banners too. Not a single blue window, yet the Tories win again.
The love that dare not speak its name.
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Dave the OAP
Well-known member
isn't that the same where someone sits in the Lords and is in the government like the attorney general guy in Blair's government?
I didnt think you had to be an MP to sit in government so long as you had a seat in eiither house?
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Yeah, they want an open border and free movement across it and to fully uphold The Good Friday Agreement. As I said in an earlier post, it's interesting to note Arlene Foster's tone on working together with The Tories is somewhat different to May's.
The alt-right perspective on a possible Tory-DUP alliance
http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...emind-tories-conservatism-supposed-look-like/
http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...emind-tories-conservatism-supposed-look-like/
Rather well said!
There was a post earlier (can't find it now) celebrating the fact that Brighton had run the Tories out of town. The good news is of course that the rest of Sussex has retained its senses and remained blue. Not surprising that Brighton has rejected the Conservatives with the city full of students who will support any party that offers them lots of free stuff withhout any concern for the consequencies. Free tuition? I'll vote for that. No iota of concern as to whence the money cometh. As a taxpayer I actually do not particularly want to finance the further education of every student waster who would rather study for three years than get a job. Then, having made themselves virtually unemployable by covering their bodies with tattoos and piercings, they complain that they cannot find work and blame the government!
Theresa May really shot herself in the foot with this fiasco. In future please please let's have political campaigns focussed more on the party than the leader.
You don't have to be an MP but if you're not, you have to be a peer - Gladstone wasn't a peer so he had to retain one of his seats
Eastbourne didn't
Maybe they won't be able to do much of their manifesto, but they will be able to get on with Brexit, and that's more important. Do we need another election getting in the way of that, with no guarantee that we won't have another hung parliament?
It says 'after the next UK general election'. I'd need that wording changed if I was betting on yesterday's election.
studio150
Well-known member
Really, your blue glasses are hiding the true position. I know I stayed up all night to watch the result so may have been a little tired but did the Lib Dems not gain Eastbourne?
It must have been all the OAPs not liking the dementia tax