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It's pretty disgraceful how the tories always make it personal with JC, the moron general public always lap this shit up though

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It's pretty disgraceful how labour, the tories and the lib dems always made it personal with Farage too, Farage got it a million times worse than Corbyn.
 
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Weststander

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Great response. Nearly as well thought out as the one I quoted. No one's going to f*** with your critical thinking, unimpeachable logic and minute attention to detail, that's for sure.

You really are a serious and miserable soul. Cheer up, Corbyn may be leading a government of your choice come June. Early days to be so angry.
 


Wrong-Direction

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Mar 10, 2013
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you can trot out tired old memes like this, fact is that 11million people voted Tory in the last election, and about 8-10m in the previous few. most of those millions of people are neither "rich", nor "dont care about other people", and don't recognise the left's caricature of Conservative voters. this is is why the current polling shows Labour so far behind, because more people are connecting with the message from May than the message from Corbyn.
Or there's just more idiots?

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The Rivet

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You really are a serious and miserable soul. Cheer up, Corbyn may be leading a government of your choice come June. Early days to be so angry.

Weststander the reason he is so upset and angry is because he KNOWS effectual opposition to the Tories and Brexit, particularly Labour and Brighton are indeed definitely politically irrelevant right now. He is lashing out. I should feel empathy (as I am told too these days when confronted with a mentally tortured individual) Instead I am laughing.
 


Weststander

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Weststander the reason he is so upset and angry is because he KNOWS Labour and Brighton are definitely politically irrelevant right now. He is lashing out. I should feel empathy (as I am told too these days when confronted with a mentally tortured individual) Instead I am laughing.

Taking the P out of one his hero's, comrade Abbott, was a step too far.
 








Guinness Boy

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You really are a serious and miserable soul. Cheer up, Corbyn may be leading a government of your choice come June. Early days to be so angry.

Another one who reads one word and sees a million. Where did I say I was a Corbyn supporter?

I'm not and never have been. I'm a classic Social Democratic, veering between the right of the Labour party, the left of the Lib Dems and the more sensible Greens. I always tend to gravitate to the centre ground and to a good local candidate. Just like 2015 I will be looking at every party's main pledges and looking at the likely character of all the main parties' candidates before voting.

You, on the other hand, may be hilariously light hearted - after all if you can't have a good laugh when choosing the government that's going to enact Brexit and possibly play war games with South Korea, when can you - but you're totally wrong about political irrelevance. Brighton Kemp Town is relevant as a Tory seat with a tiny majority. Pavilion is relevant for having the country's only Green MP. Hove is a massive swing seat. Meanwhile, like it or not, Corbyn and Abbot have moved the Labour party staggeringly to the left, gained it the most members it has ever had and put real socialism back in to the debate.

I've no doubt that the Tories will win with a huge, chucklesome landslide but the very seats and people you claim are irrelevant may be the reason that occurs.
 




Weststander

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Indeed. Notice how quick UKIP and racism came off his keyboard fingers. Wow

Similar to when Gordon Brown whispered to his aide about the "bigoted woman", who was a lifelong Labour supporter politely asking him a couple of questions about the level of immigration.

Tarring anyone with concerns. Ended up being the quiet majority.
 


Weststander

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Another one who reads one word and sees a million. Where did I say I was a Corbyn supporter?

I'm not and never have been. I'm a classic Social Democratic, veering between the right of the Labour party, the left of the Lib Dems and the more sensible Greens. I always tend to gravitate to the centre ground and to a good local candidate. Just like 2015 I will be looking at every party's main pledges and looking at the likely character of all the main parties' candidates before voting.

You, on the other hand, may be hilariously light hearted - after all if you can't have a good laugh when choosing the government that's going to enact Brexit and possibly play war games with South Korea, when can you - but you're totally wrong about political irrelevance. Brighton Kemp Town is relevant as a Tory seat with a tiny majority. Pavilion is relevant for having the country's only Green MP. Hove is a massive swing seat. Meanwhile, like it or not, Corbyn and Abbot have moved the Labour party staggeringly to the left, gained it the most members it has ever had and put real socialism back in to the debate.

I've no doubt that the Tories will win with a huge, chucklesome landslide but the very seats and people you claim are irrelevant may be the reason that occurs.

But have made Labour completely unelectable. Policies or well known strong views which are Anti American, Anti NATO, Anti Capitalism, republican, command economics, big government (more controls, laws, quangos), high tax and spend economics ... may excite 20% of the UK population, but nothing will come of it.

Surely the type of Labour expounded by the Peter Kyle's and the lifelong Labour Party leaders being squeezed out of their own party in B & H, give socialists the best chance at elections?

The Momentum and Len McCluskey wing will hand the country to your political enemies.
 


GT49er

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Strange that you seem to have given me an opinion I don't hold out of reading a one paragraph response on a message board. I was illustrating what I do and do not consider news, not what you do. But since you're here, John Humphries, maybe you could give us all the election stories you do consider newsworthy?
In case you hadn't noticed, you have 10,543 other posts besides your 'one paragraph response'. Thankfully, I haven't read them all, but there have been quite a few on this thread, and they all build up a picture. And what you were implying was very clear.
And no, I've no desire to list the things I think are important from today's news stories, although speeches made by Bojo himself and by Merkel are probably a lot more significant than anything concerning Bojo's sister......or the Limp Dems for that matter.
 






Guinness Boy

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But have made Labour completely unelectable. Policies or well known strong views which are Anti American, Anti NATO, Anti Capitalism, republican, command economics, big government (more controls, laws, quangos), high tax and spend economics ... may excite 20% of the UK population, but nothing will come of it.

Surely the type of Labour expounded by the Peter Kyle's and the lifelong Labour Party leaders being squeezed out of their own party in B & H, give socialists the best chance at elections?

The Momentum and Len McCluskey wing will hand the country to your political enemies.

See, I agree with that 100%.
 


Soulman

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It's pretty disgraceful how labour, the tories and the lib dems always made it personal with Farage too, Farage got it a million times worse than Corbyn.

So true, his job is done, yet still many on here bring him and UKIP in to the debate.......let it go now, concentrate on who will lead this country forward, Labour :lolol:
 


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