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ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
15,173
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
The fact he turns up?

May would prefer to go and meet some Europeans on the streets of Madrid during the negotiations.

The fact he'd perhaps go about them in a cordial, sensible, diplomatic manner and not threaten them just to appease Paul Dacre too.
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,455
Sussex by the Sea
Whilst May was indeed shambolic the other evening, I honestly felt Corbyn simply avoided the controversial questions regarding his past then fed the observers much 'feed the world' rhetoric and not once explained how the bill would be paid.

Corbyn therefore, in my mind, will be right to attend tonight to preach the contents of the Labour manifesto, much of which is contrary to his beliefs.

Do we vote for the personality or the party?
 




pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,688
So no real facts then. Fact is i turn up at the Amex but would not be much use on the pitch. So why would JC be best for the EU exit?
Ernest does not seem to know, i'm sure you do.

You'd be better on the pitch than outside talking to some stewards who are having a break.
 








Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,464
Hove
So no real facts then. Fact is i turn up at the Amex but would not be much use on the pitch. So why would JC be best for the EU exit?
Ernest does not seem to know, i'm sure you do.

1. He listens.
2. He talks. He enters into a dialogue.
3. He has demonstrated he is not easily offended.
4. He stands by his principles.
5. He will negotiate for a deal that works for everyone.
6. He won't resort to a trading of insults to get the job done.
7. He won't treat it as a boxing match which has a winner, he will seek to achieve a deal all parties are happy with (in essence what all deals should be*).
8. He won't be interested in his own pride or ego, he will try to achieve the best deal for the UK.


*It was actually Bernie Ecclestone who said that the best outcome of a deal negotiation is when no one leaves happy.
 


Moshe Gariani

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2005
12,199
So no real facts then. Fact is i turn up at the Amex but would not be much use on the pitch. So why would JC be best for the EU exit?
Ernest does not seem to know, i'm sure you do.
We are all guessing rather than knowing for sure about this one. My view is JC has a decent track record as a negotiator and influencer.

The main reason I am confident he is best for Britain is that he is motivated by the interests of the many and not the few - it is surprisingly easy to grasp if you try.
 


Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
1. He listens.
2. He talks. He enters into a dialogue.
3. He has demonstrated he is not easily offended.
4. He stands by his principles.
5. He will negotiate for a deal that works for everyone.
6. He won't resort to a trading of insults to get the job done.
7. He won't treat it as a boxing match which has a winner, he will seek to achieve a deal all parties are happy with (in essence what all deals should be*).
8. He won't be interested in his own pride or ego, he will try to achieve the best deal for the UK.


*It was actually Bernie Ecclestone who said that the best outcome of a deal negotiation is when no one leaves happy.

What can I say. Those are not facts, an opinion I grant you. I had a tear in my eye, bring on JC.
 




Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,748
LOONEY BIN
So no real facts then. Fact is i turn up at the Amex but would not be much use on the pitch. So why would JC be best for the EU exit?
Ernest does not seem to know, i'm sure you do.

It doesn't matter how good JC will be as it will be Keir Starmer QC heading the team as Prime Ministers aren't part of the talks and I'd much prefer Keir than the Chuckle Bros Davis and Johnson to be doing the negotiating for my country
 










studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,229
On the Border
Over the EU referendum JC was very quiet, non existant. What makes you think he would/could be any good in exit talks.

Over the EU referendum Mrs May was very quiet, non existent. What makes you think she would/could be any good in exit talks, indeed why would she be better than Jeremy given you keep telling everyone he will be useless, but as usual back this up with nothing.
 


Whoislloydy

Well-known member
May 2, 2016
2,495
Vancouver, British Columbia
So today May has slated Corbyn for his constant TV appearances when asked why she was sending Rudd in her place on tonights debate.

She has said Corbyn should be focusing on coming up with a plan for Brexit. That's rich coming from the woman who called for this ****ing General Election.
 


pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,688
What can I say. Those are not facts, an opinion I grant you. I had a tear in my eye, bring on JC.

How about the fact that Corbyn is generally sceptical of the EU (some say he wanted out?) and May was a fully committed remainer.

So you have someone who ideally wants to stay in the EU who avoids debating and someone sceptical who wants out of the EU and who is prepared to debate and show what they are about.
 








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