General Election 2017

[Raleigh Chopper]

Fair enough, you are young and you feel Labour will look after you. I was young when Labour was in power, I have since been under another Labour government, and Tory. So that is two a piece. I am working class and in the same work as you, I wanted to be Labour, I even voted for them in 1997......bad mistake, as a working class man I have been better off under the Tories.
If you really feel that you will get on the property ladder and be better off under a Labour government, you will not be duped, like I was, you are prepared for massive borrowing and debt, you are prepared for a government with Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott as the 3 most important people running this country.....then go for it.

More Debt and borrowing than for many many years, deficit not paid off, increasing child poverty, NHS in crisis, schools in crisis, queues at food banks including nurses and very few with the money to put a deposit on a house and staying at home well into there 30's.
And all you are interested in is how well off you are.
Selfish ****
Are you and wellthickwoody being deliberately stupid or do you have 'special needs'
You are both bellends.

 

[glasfryn]

YouGov predicting a hung parliament...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...dicts-conservatives-will-lose-seats-02zfwl8lc

#interestingtimes

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interesting times indeed

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

The same was said when the Tories got in last time 1979, it never happened. I have worked on more refurbs/ new under the Tories than Labour.

And you alone count for every builder or building company in the country.
Please stop now before you make an even bigger idiot of yourself.

 

[Ernest]

interesting times indeed

Expect more personal attacks and insults on JC as that is all the Tories have now

 

[bWize]

"What do Conservatives think about Jeremy Corbyn?"



Worth a watch, they see him far from weak...

 

[Questions]

Big day tomorrow. Theresa May will go on about Brexit as usual and Jeremy Corbin should have a strong day on tha NHS and Schools and maybe Universities. He needs to get things right to close that gap. These are Labours strong areas.

 

[Hugo Rune]

YouGov predicting a hung parliament...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...dicts-conservatives-will-lose-seats-02zfwl8lc

#interestingtimes

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Good.

LibDems, SNP & Greens form a coalition with Labour and Prime Minster Corbyn on the basis that -

1) There is a referendum on the Brexit deal.
2) Abbott & McDonnell are sent back to the back benches

Interesting times indeed.

 

[Bozza]

Expect more personal attacks and insults on JC as that is all the Tories have now

Following your lead, skipper.

 

[Bozza]

Good.

LibDems, SNP & Greens form a coalition with Labour and Prime Minster Corbyn on the basis that -

1) There is a referendum on the Brexit deal.
2) Abbott & McDonnell are sent back to the back benches

Interesting times indeed.

Didn't Corbyn state that he'd not work with the SNP only a day or two ago? And as a strong principled non-flip-flopper, that's that then...

 

[Soulman]

By the way, have you?

This would suggest that either builders are so badly off under the Tories they can't eat, or you indulge in poverty tourism.


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*restrict the working class to one live game of football a season and only allow them in to pubs on alternate weeks." Suppose you are the only one that can be funny eh.
This from the bloke that posted "
Just for the record, I am a sparks, are you a young Guinness taster.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Good.

LibDems, SNP & Greens form a coalition with Labour and Prime Minster Corbyn on the basis that -

1) There is a referendum on the Brexit deal.
2) Abbott & McDonnell are sent back to the back benches

Interesting times indeed.

Behave! You've got my hopes up now.

It's May with a 250 seat majority, France and Germany vanquished by supper and the return of the birch. You'll see. #StrongAndStable


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[sir albion]

This country will never improve and will go backwards because we have such weak leaders nowadays.This country just sells all it's assets to foreigners and 10's of billions just leave here every year and we wonder why the pot is always empty.

No bright future even though I'm over the moon with brexit....even while in the EU things are bloody brewing up and it made no difference.

 

[Guinness Boy]

*restrict the working class to one live game of football a season and only allow them in to pubs on alternate weeks." Suppose you are the only one that can be funny eh.
This from the bloke that posted "
Just for the record, I am a sparks, are you a young Guinness taster.

That's possibly the worst retort in the history of NSC.

Even the bloke I quoted acknowledged it was satire. You don't know the difference.

So, how do you know that people who use food banks are massive fatties? You haven't answered.


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[Hugo Rune]

Didn't Corbyn state that he'd not work with the SNP only a day or two ago? And as a strong principled non-flip-flopper, that's that then...

As you well know, once any politician gets a sniff of power, anything they've promised or said previously becomes irrelevant.

As Corbyn well knows, Labour can't win an election without taking back most of the 50 odd SNP held seats in Scotland they held under Blair. He'll do a deal so there is a third condition for the coalition.

3) The SNP is given another referendum post brexit deal.

 

[Soulman]

That's possibly the worst retort in the history of NSC.

Even the bloke I quoted acknowledged it was satire. You don't know the difference.

So, how do you know that people who use food banks are massive fatties? You haven't answered.


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Did I write "massive fatties", no, just your phrase, best you quote what I have put. Give you a clue, I put "some" in the post. To simplify it for you, "some" is not all. Less haste eh, and yes I have seen some people at food banks who do not look as if they have been starved....."some".

 

[studio150]

Labour are a disaster

1) Up to 50 thousand 'excess' deaths were recorded at hospitals during the last Labour Goverment. (Research by Sir Brian Jarman of Imperial College).
2) Hundreds of stealth taxes, paid by all.
3) Between 1997 to 2010 gas prices rose 133% and electricity prices rose 69%. Why would the public ever trust Labour on energy prices again?.
4) The devastating impact of Labour's raid on pensions: The tax grab has cost workers £118bn no since 1997. (Office for Budget Responsibility).
5) Labour spent £148.7 million on a National Measurements Office which forces traders to measure their goods in kilograms rather than pounds.
6) The Royal Mail is now sold because of EU Postal Directive 2008/6/EC, brought in by the last Labour government.
7) Council Tax doubled under Labour - 105% increase in England, 146% Wales. (The Chartered Institute of Public Finance & Accountancy: 26/03/09).
8) In 2012/13 Labour councils employed nearly 23,000 people on zero-hour contracts.
9) £660 million has been cut from Labour run NHS Wales over the last three years according to the Welsh TUC.
10) When Labour came to power in 1997, spending on NHS managers was less than £190m. By 2010 this had increased by 450% to over £1bn per year.
11) Labour wasted £11bn of taxpayers money on a failed IT project which was eventually scrapped by the NHS in 2013.
12) Labour lumbered the NHS with vast PFI repayments - £50 billion worth of loans which are costing £300 billion in repayments.
13) It was the Labour Party who awarded the DWP Medical Services Contract to ATOS on the 15th March 2005.
14) Labour started the privatisation of the NHS. They brought in the 2006 NHS Act that introduced competition into the NHS.
15) Labour introduced competition into the NHS: Competition Act 1998, Enterprise Act 2002 & Public Sector Procurement Regulations 2006.
16) In 2006 Gordon Brown cut the flood defence budget by £14 million.
17) Youth unemployment rose by more than 40% during Labour's 13 years in office.
18) Total stock of social housing fell under Labour - 421,000 homes were lost from the social housing stock between 1997 and 2010.
19) British manufacturing grew by 28% between 1980 and 1997. Then, under Labour, it shrank by 6%: falling from 20% of GDP to just 11%.
20) Labour left a deficit of £156 billion, PFI liability of £301 billion, EU Rebate loss £9.3 billion, Sold the Gold loss £6 billion.
21) The last Labour government spent so much money on Labour cronies that it had a 5% structural deficit at the height of the boom.
22)
The use of food banks went up tenfold under Labour. From 3,000 users in 2005/06 to over 40,000 by 2009/10. (The Trussell Trust/C4 FactCheck).
23) When Labour's Gordon Brown became Prime Minister in 2007, UK public debt was 44.1% of GDP. When he left in 2010, it was 148.1%.
24) Only 6,330 council houses were completed from 1998 to 2010 under Labour, compared with 17,710 in 1990 alone - Thatcher's final year as PM.
25) Tony Blair gave away a chunk of the UK's EU rebate estimated now to have cost the UK £9.3 billion between 2007-2013.
26) In 2010 Gordon Brown branded Rochdale voter Gillian Duffy "a bigoted woman" for daring to voice her concern about uncontrolled immigration.
27) Labour are now complaining about gambling. But they were the ones who wanted to build Super Casinos in some of the poorest areas in Britain.
28) Labour closed more mines in 5 years than Thatcher did in 11 years.. 211 mines closed under Wilson 1965-70.. 154 under Thatcher 1979-90.
29) Under Labour zero hour contracts increased by 74% between 2004 - 2009.
30) Since Labour liberalised the law in 2000 to allow postal voting on demand, the number of postal voting fraud in Labour areas has soared.
31) Labour wants to charge patients. Lord Warner said people should pay a £10-a-month fee to use NHS/£20 for every night they stay in hospital.
32) Sexed up dossiers.
33) Labour were responsible for the rise in payday lenders. Now they are campaigning against them.
34) Labour presided over the slowest growth in 50 years and produced the fastest decline in British manufacturing since manufacturing began.
35) Labour destroyed our border controls then with the help of the BBC denounced anybody who voiced concerns about mass immigration as racists.
36) Labour councils are the biggest users of zero hour contracts.
37) Under Labour between 1997 to 2010 the gap between rich and poor got wider.
38) The last Labour government doubled the rate of income tax on the lowest paid.
39) Thousands of dead Iraqi women and children.
40) Labour MPs to remember: Denis MacShane (jailed), David Chaytor (jailed), Eric Illsley (jailed), Elliot Morley (jailed), Jim Devine (jailed).
41) Blair invaded Iraq and Brown invaded the Treasury, both actions crippled us.
42) Labour opposes democracy in Britain by denying the British people a referendum

Just think if you had looked a little further you could have copied and pasted 50, YES 50 items from politicsforum.co.uk rather than the 42 you copied.

Was there not a post from Bozza about posting the source and only pasting a few lines from the article and leaving a link for those interested to read the full copy. Why not follow this request, it can't be too difficult can it?

 

[Bozza]

As you well know, once any politician gets a sniff of power, anything they've promised or said previously becomes irrelevant.

As Corbyn well knows, Labour can't win an election without taking back most of the 50 odd SNP held seats in Scotland they held under Blair. He'll do a deal so there is a third condition for the coalition.

3) The SNP is given another referendum post brexit deal.

Any politician other than Saint Corbyn, surely? He'd not go back on his word would he (if we ignore all the times he's already gone back on his word)?

 

[Guinness Boy]

General Election - New poll added 21/05/17

Didn't Corbyn state that he'd not work with the SNP only a day or two ago? And as a strong principled non-flip-flopper, that's that then...

I don't think Corbyn's said he'll work with the SNP. I think that was just an instantaneous & light hearted reaction on this message board.




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[Guinness Boy]

Did I write "massive fatties", no, just your phrase, best you quote what I have put. Give you a clue, I put "some" in the post. To simplify it for you, "some" is not all. Less haste eh, and yes I have seen some people at food banks who do not look as if they have been starved....."some".

I've never been to a food bank. Were you picking up or were you just indulging in voyeurism?


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[Bozza]

I don't think Corbyn's said he'll work with the SNP. I think that was just an instantaneous & light hearted reaction on this message board.

If strong and stable Maybot is going to get us a good deal in Brussels then surely this should be water off a duck's back?

Did you mean "I don't think Corbyn's said he'll NOT work with the SNP"? If so...

He said: "There will be no coalition deal with the SNP and a Labour government.

"The SNP may talk left at Westminster, but in government in Scotland it acts right. A genuinely progressive party would not refuse to introduce a 50p top rate of income tax on the richest.

"The SNP wants to break up the UK; it has no interest in making it work better. Independence would lead to turbo-charged austerity in Scotland - not progressive politics."

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-39648506