General Election 2017

[mikeyjh]

Literally the only politician talking sense when it comes to terrorism.

Indeed, you have to be some sort o loon to claim that the various invasions/interventions in the middle east have had a positive impact against terrorism.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Patience
Sound like Jeremy will reveal his alternative today to the war on terror which he says doesnt work.
Lets wait and see what his proposal is.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

The Conservative manifesto by contrast appears to be selling a “steady as she goes” prospectus. But that does not mean no change from today because the Conservatives in government have already laid down big policy plans. It means big cuts in welfare spending. It means another parliament of austerity for the public services, including an incredibly challenging period for the NHS and real cuts to per pupil funding in schools.

It is not clear that this would be deliverable. Barely two months after the 2015 general election they announced spending plans that were less tight than set out in their manifesto. Maybe they would do that again. I would also not bet against a Conservative government finding some additional tax raising measures.

The Conservatives simply offer the cuts already promised. Additional funding pledges for the NHS and schools are just confirming that spending would rise in a way broadly consistent with the March Budget. Compared with Labour they are offering a relatively smaller state and consequently lower taxes. With that offer come unacknowledged risks to the quality of public services, and tough choices over spending. The difficulty in making some of those choices has been well exemplified by the to-ing and fro-ing, to put it politely, over the funding of social care.

Steady as she goes sounds a lot like strong and stable to me..

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[Spicy]

It won't be 2010 for LD's, but in key seats they will do well, but not well in the SW

I realise that and our MP is the only Lib Dem MP in London currently.

 

[narly101]

I'd like to see an introduction of increased taxes for those who are expecting their children to receive free education. My wife and I have one child, and pay income tax/NI and council tax which feeds Education, to enable my son to receive primary and secondary education for free. However, people who have more children, don't pay any further into the welfare of education, yet receive education right the way through to 18 without any increased payment.

An interesting article on the state of education.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/feb/14/should-parents-pay-fees-state-school-education

Build a country with a sound education footprint and you benefit the country in the future. An intelligent child, is a healthy child.

 

[Ernest]

The IFS also mentioned immigration policy harming the economy and tax take.

The school meals 'plan' is also complete bollocks.

No it's not 7p a pupil for breakfast is fair, because we need to give MP's like Duncan-Smith £39 for his

 

[CherryInHove]

I'd like to see an introduction of increased taxes for those who are expecting their children to receive free education. My wife and I have one child, and pay income tax/NI and council tax which feeds Education, to enable my son to receive primary and secondary education for free. However, people who have more children, don't pay any further into the welfare of education, yet receive education right the way through to 18 without any increased payment.

I haven't used the NHS for over 20 years, so I think that I should get a lower tax bill. Also, I've had no reason to use the police, so my tax should go down for that as well. I also don't drive very much, so I should get a reduction compared to people who drive loads.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

This whole election, like none since 1987, is like a caricature of British politics.

It is like 6th form political debate come to life - the hopelessly idealistic socialist on one side, and the heartless self-interested right, on the other.

I'll lean to the red corner, purely because I actually believe they have the best interests of the country at heart, despite misgivings over their competence. I honestly do not have that belief in our existing government. Depressing.

 

[CHAPPERS]

we need to give MP's like Duncan-Smith £39 for his

I still can't comprehend this.

 

[Ernest]

A few weeks ago Queen Theresa was thinking this was going to an uncontested coronation with the lemmings and sheep giving her a majority of 100+ and now she is scrambling to hold on to seats and will be glad of a majority by fair means or foul

 

[CHAPPERS]

Jonathan Bartley is good isn't he.

 

[nicko31]

Tactical voting is for brainless morons. Vote for polices, vote for a specific person but voting 'tactically' shows a complete lack of thinking and intelligence.

Having a referendum on the EU was brainless, strange times prevail...

 

[nicko31]

Jonathan Bartley is good isn't he.

He is, don't agree with everything the Greens stand for. But if you've got kids a decent candidate is well worthy of consideration. Has a fighting chance of becoming an MP

 

[Gwylan]

Has a fighting chance of becoming an MP

Not really, he's more than 20,000 votes behind Umunna - he's got a good chance of becoming third though. That's something to build on

 

[Jim D]

Which one? You can't mean the one that said no cap on social care in their manifesto then 3 days later said there would be, so which party?

Yes I do. They seem to be the only ones who understand that the Brexit process is going to be a long, hard struggle with an uncertain outcome - and want to address it. Consequently they are trying to prepare the ground for a number of years of austerity - and the way that we fund social care is part of the plan. It was a great pity that TM didn't have the nerve to see it through against the self-interest of those that would have to pay (ie the descendents of those needing care, as payment would only be after death). That wasn't Strong and Stable.

With JC I just don't see Brexit happening as they would be too busy trying to implement their insane policies and fighting their own fires to pay the attention needed to the EU (who would dance all around them). Also, there are too many of his team that would be happy to just give up.

For that reason, the only way we're going to see Brexit is if we vote Tory, and I hope enough people understand that.

 

[CherryInHove]

With JC I just don't see Brexit happening as they would be too busy trying to implement their insane policies and fighting their own fires to pay the attention needed to the EU (who would dance all around them). Also, there are too many of his team that would be happy to just give up.

So, we could get rid of the Tories AND not leave the EU. They've definitely got my vote then!

 

[Silk]

I'd like to see an introduction of increased taxes for those who are expecting their children to receive free education. My wife and I have one child, and pay income tax/NI and council tax which feeds Education, to enable my son to receive primary and secondary education for free. However, people who have more children, don't pay any further into the welfare of education, yet receive education right the way through to 18 without any increased payment.

An interesting article on the state of education.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/feb/14/should-parents-pay-fees-state-school-education

Build a country with a sound education footprint and you benefit the country in the future. An intelligent child, is a healthy child.

Have you any idea what you're talking about?

"However, people who have more children, don't pay any further into the welfare of education, yet receive education right the way through to 18 without any increased payment." You do know that the amount of income tax you pay depends on your earnings, don't you? So someone with 4 children may, or may not, be paying more tax than you.

 

[LU7 RED]

So, we could get rid of the Tories AND not leave the EU. They've definitely got my vote then!

Count me in...

As my mate put it - Basically the election comes down to this.............................'Am I a c**t?*

 

[GT49er]

Having a referendum on the EU was brainless, strange times prevail...

On the contrary, it was a excellent idea. And now TM has the difficult job of making Brexit happen. I'm fairly sure JC would too,but I don't have much faith in his negotiation abilities, but we wold be betrayed by the PLP who almost to a man (or woman) are wholly with the LibDems and the Greens in wanting a second referendum in the hope that the electorate would change its mind.
They probably realise by now that enough remainers have come round to the 'get on with it' point of view now, so their beloved second referendum probably wouldn't get them the 'right' result - but if in power, I wouldn't trust them an inch - they would have no qualms about making sure Brexit didn't happen, regardless of the democratic will of the majority who voted in a straightforward In or Out referendum.

 

[mikeyjh]

I'd like to see an introduction of increased taxes for those who are expecting their children to receive free education. My wife and I have one child, and pay income tax/NI and council tax which feeds Education, to enable my son to receive primary and secondary education for free. However, people who have more children, don't pay any further into the welfare of education, yet receive education right the way through to 18 without any increased payment.

An interesting article on the state of education.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/feb/14/should-parents-pay-fees-state-school-education

Build a country with a sound education footprint and you benefit the country in the future. An intelligent child, is a healthy child.

I have no kids and pay more tax than most - Give your idea, why on earth should I be paying for your child's education? Should I get a rebate?