They declared for Cameron last week after the Paxo interviews
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General Election 2015
- Thread starter Herr Tubthumper
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They declared for Cameron last week after the Paxo interviews
I'd suggest watching the show - Ed did anything but make himself look good. In fact he'd have been better off eating a bacon sandwich.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Don't agree.
Miliband did ok.
Cameron did ok as well.
Farage played to his own gallery and would have been popular with them, but not sure he'd have won over many others.
Clegg didn't do enough - he's finished, I think - and the best he hope is to keep his own seat, and then step aside as leader.
Greens, SNP, and PC will all have gained votes.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Nothing has changed, Cameron has shown nothing so far to suggest that he is going to get anywhere near the 326 seats they need
seagullsovergrimsby
#cpfctinpotclub
On reflection it looks like the LibDems could well be the "king-makers" either in a right wing alliance pact(CON-LD-DUP-UKIP) or a left wing alliance pact (LAB-LD-SNP-PC-Green). Last night's debate may have seen some of the general public warm to the idea that the SNP and Labour will have to work together as the alternative to another 5 years of Dave looking after his very rich pals.
Hampster Gull
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- Dec 22, 2010
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Good summary. One exception for me. I think Libs will win enough seats to be players to some extent and that might keep him there for longer than we think.
Funny how we all see it, I agree that Cameron was ok and nothing more, but bearing in mind Miliband had the chance to push the advantage home, I thought given his position, he was by far the least impressive. The NHS which I would have thought was Labours trump card, I thought he ended up losing when he ducked the Mid Staffs question (he could have come back with Colchester).
Farage was doing ok, until the monumental own goal with the foreign health tourists, he may have a point, but needed to be more guarded about how he put it across.
Thought Sturgeon was more convincing. Clegg was better than I thought, though Cameron's 'pick and mix' comment effectively stumped him.
All in all, it has done nothing than convince me that currently, politics and leadership in all the main parties is at an all time low.
franks brother
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_6w1RSesdw
more truth in those 75 seconds than the whole 2 hour debate last night.
more truth in those 75 seconds than the whole 2 hour debate last night.
Kuipers Supporters Club
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Sticking to my guns of Tory-LD-DUP deal. Especially now the DUP have done a deal with the UUP - should mean 9 seats for them. +25 for the LD should get the deal across the line.
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Labour SNP is the answer.
Machiavelli
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Think you've got most of it right here, although Farage was dire from the word go, playing to the gallery, and claiming that we need to get out of Europe and start trading with the commonwealth. Is it 2015 or 1915?
I also think Miliband came across well again, and it was between him and Sturgeon as most impressive performer. What you've got to bear in mind with Miliband is that he was starting from monumentally low ratings and expectations. That he's been right up there in both 'debates' constitutes a turnaround, and I expect you'll continue to see his personal ratings rise ahead of the election.
crookie
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Only if the question is "What would be the most disastrous outcome of the general election?"
To be frank I wouldn't have a problem with the SNP being involved but Labour, after that performance, no way.
Really, at least you won't have to live with the outcome of this alliance.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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fair assessment, i wonder if PC will make a surge in Labour heartlands of south Wales. anyway, i thought Clegg did OK he made some good points and if people can move on from one election promise dropped, then they might see they havent done too badly (seriously, this tution fees thing is massivly overblown in the scheme of things. especially when it was Labour that introduced them in the first place).
Portillo on the TV after made a good observation that Cameron and Miliband are essentially only interested in appealing to their established vote, theres no real attempt to connect or bring in new voters. the floating voter will be selecting a party pretty randomly i think. Conservative and Labour are at this point more concerned with not losing than winning, what would it take to swing 60+ seats to Labour or 20+ to Tories? im becoming more convinced that the Liberals arent going to have the implosion expected because of this, the Liberal voter is either not inclined to vote for either of those or a tactical voter, so why would they change to Labour/Con now? or we can look forward to a low turnout, which might favor the two main parties.
Kuipers Supporters Club
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Maybe the Tories and Labour should do a deal. Wouldn't happen in Germany..........Oh yeah.
#Nibble
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
I agree with Ed..if they keep Balls locked in a cupboard they might have a chance
We have got the money because, as yet, we haven't defaulted on the debt. If you want it to compare to a household budget, it's like having a mortgage. Except of course the country's mortgage is just for 25 years. There have of course been very few years when a government of any colour has run a surplus. Finally, if your scared of big figures, our nominal GDP for 2015 is £3,000,000,000,000.
People are happy to bang on about the National Debt being the highest it has ever been but also forget to mention GDP is higher than it has ever been! It is double what it was in 2000. Yes, we would all like to see a zero National Debt but that ain't going to happen.
Labour admitted to their mistakes. We are all wise after the event. The Coalition have sat back and allowed millions into the country. Several cities the size of Birmingham if you include the ones not accounted for. The Tories have simply carried on printing money whilst harming the poorest. Thank goodness for the LIB Dems insisting the income tax threshold is raised. The recession was not caused by Labour but by the banks world wide. Osborne was constantly complaining that the banks were being over regulated so obviously the collapse would have been even worse under the Tories.
Unfortunately you appear to be a classic loud mother Tory Boy. Big Mouth strikes again. You think you are bright but your whole world just revolves around yourself. You certainly seem to have a limited grasp of politics.