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Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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The Fatherland
Absolutely right Buzzer. I really don't give a toss where people go to school.

To a degree yes. But I do feel uncomfortable that so many were actually members of the same cliques during their education. It does smack of jobs for the boys.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
To a degree yes. But I do feel uncomfortable that so many were actually members of the same cliques during their education. It does smack of jobs for the boys.
Correct.

But it really shouldn't make you feel any more uncomfortable than watching Harriet Harman sending her kids to private school, or Tony Blair sending his kids to the London Oratory (which isn't private, but is highly selective and has been heavily criticised for it's enrolment, massively dominated by the white middle-class).
 


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We really need to give Labour another chance, so they can **** it up again, dismantle our country, people will finally wake up to what they really are.
 




Tubby Mondays

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Dec 8, 2005
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Hold on a sec Enrest, they introduced gay marriage..... party of the rich, could be argued.... you may not like them, but to call them incompetent is disingenious, you cannot back it up......... they inherited a calamity, a financially bankrupt country with the worst economic forecasts of any major western country, they may well leave in 2015, and if they do they will again leave an economy that is better than any western nations, with higher growth than any other (from all independent economic forecasters)... and these was born of policiy decisions that Labour invested all their economic credibility in saying "would not work", its FACT it has worked, its been tough, but its far tougher now in France and we would be where they are as Balls Economic model and ideas were similar to Hollandes.

"Incompetent" is not a word any tribal Labour supporter can cast with a straight face

I can.

The unwanted, unnecessary, very expensive, so toxic that they did not feature in the party's manifesto and so badly managed by their architect that he was sacked, is not the work of a competent party.

Nevermind party of government.
 






Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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As our domestic economy improves whilst there's uncertainty over Scottish independence, chaos in the Middle East and conflict in Ukraine a lot of floating voters will opt for stability and the status quo.

Power for UKIP or Labour means complete and utter uncertainty, both economically and socially.
 








Tubby Mondays

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Dec 8, 2005
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As our domestic economy improves whilst there's uncertainty over Scottish independence, chaos in the Middle East and conflict in Ukraine a lot of floating voters will opt for stability and the status quo.

Power for UKIP or Labour means complete and utter uncertainty, both economically and socially.

How has it improved?

The deficit hasn't been eliminated by the end of this parliament as was declared.
The credit rating that was to be what the current chancellor was to be judged on was lost.
The spending boom is based on credit that will come back to kick many in the nuts when the interest rates go up.
The employment figures are based on many in zero hours contracts and/or poorly paid part time work I think would lead to uncertainty economically an socially.

And ive probably missed another 25 reasons.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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How has it improved?

The deficit hasn't been eliminated by the end of this parliament as was declared.
The credit rating that was to be what the current chancellor was to be judged on was lost.
The spending boom is based on credit that will come back to kick many in the nuts when the interest rates go up.
The employment figures are based on many in zero hours contracts and/or poorly paid part time work I think would lead to uncertainty economically an socially.

And ive probably missed another 25 reasons.

This. The person on the street is not feeling any improvement in the economy. Roll on May when these selfish ***** will be history.
 




Stumpy Tim

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This. The person on the street is not feeling any improvement in the economy. Roll on May when these selfish ***** will be history.

Can't see it personally, and this from a New Labour voter. The Tories will win in my opinion. I can't vote for Ed, and certainly can't vote for Dave. I'm left with the Liberals, which is a wasted vote really.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Can't see it personally, and this from a New Labour voter. The Tories will win in my opinion. I can't vote for Ed, and certainly can't vote for Dave. I'm left with the Liberals, which is a wasted vote really.

We'll see. I'm hopeful though. I simply cannot see how the Tories have either held onto, or increased their share. A slight drop in their vote and it's curtains. I will not put my house on a labour majority but I'd put money on Milliband leading the nation come next election.
 


s5.bha

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Aug 3, 2003
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If Scotland goes it alone , will labour ever get enough seats again to hold government ?

Hope someone more knowledgable than me can tell me .....
 




Hamilton

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I wouldn't be surprised to see UKIP weaken the Tory vote while disillusioned Lib Dems and the floating voters of no particular affiliation will side with Labour.

Sensible analysis in a short sentence. You could save BBC news a lot of time. Thought of a job with them? Then we wouldn't have to listen to Nick Robinson witter on.
 


Cian

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Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
If Scotland goes it alone , will labour ever get enough seats again to hold government ?

Hope someone more knowledgable than me can tell me .....

They have in the past - when Scotland had more seats even. However, it'd be significantly more difficult, 1997 style perfect storms don't happen very often.

If AV *had* passed, its likely you'd be looking at Lab/Lib coalitions til the end of time though.
 


Hamilton

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Jul 7, 2003
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Latest Populus VI: Lab 34 (-4), Con 35 (+3), LD 8 (=), UKIP 13 (-2), Oth 10 (+3). Tables here: popu.lu/s_vi140829

Interesting little stat tucked away in here. Only 30% of Scots would vote SNP if there were to be a general election tomorrow. Can't see that boding well for their 'Yes' vote.
 






Herr Tubthumper

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Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,262
How has it improved?

The deficit hasn't been eliminated by the end of this parliament as was declared.
The credit rating that was to be what the current chancellor was to be judged on was lost.
The spending boom is based on credit that will come back to kick many in the nuts when the interest rates go up.
The employment figures are based on many in zero hours contracts and/or poorly paid part time work I think would lead to uncertainty economically an socially.

And ive probably missed another 25 reasons.

What planet are you on? According to the BCC the UK economy is expected to grow by 3.2% this year, the CBI reports retailers are at their most optimistic since Aug 2002.
 


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