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General Election 2010 All-Nighter Edition







Mellor 3 Ward 4

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
10,233
saaf of the water
I think the most sensible would be Conservative/LibDem with electoral reform.

Any other alternative aside from a minority government from the biggest party would smack of desperate, almost shameful politicking.

I really can't see the Tory Party being up for Electoral reform. They have too much to lose, long term.

I don't think that the 'old school' Tories would let Cameron do that -it would be a step too far for them IMO

I do know that there is no way that Brown can be allowed to be anywhere near Downing Street. He was never elected as PM, and has quite clearly lost this election, even if the Tories have not won it.
 


The Wizard

Well-known member
Jul 2, 2009
18,399
I'm not really about how a hung parliament works, if Clegg decides to support Labour/Conservative, who would become leader? Clegg or Cameron? Can't see Clegg dealing with the Conservatives myself. But its certainly an interesting predicament we find ourselves in. Not necessarily a good one...
 


Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,875
Brighton, UK
Interestingly, Nigel Farage's result is still very much up in the air
 


auschr

New member
Apr 19, 2009
1,357
USA
i am pretty sure brown gets first crack at forming a government and will be on the phone with clegg and lucas. electoral reform is a must.
 








As at 10.06 am 7/5/10 the Conservatives have won only 36.1% of the vote, the largest proportion of the vote but not an automatic mandate torun this country.

Basically 64% or nearly two-thirds of the voting have not voted Tory.

Where the Tories are different from the Labour, LIberals. Is that the Tories represent the right (Conservative) element of British Politics. THis election has again shown that the BNP, UKIP are real minnows.

Againgst the Conservatives, the electorate have voted for parties that are overwhelmingly are centre left.

32.4% of the electorate have voted for Socialist Parties in this election (Labour. SNP. PC, Greens, SF etc).

So the UK really is split.

The Lim DEms entered thgis election with what was a left of centre principles. The £10,000 tax threshold, was pure wealth distribution, a cut in our nuclear "deterent. This was the closest manisfesto, to Labour's 83 manisfesto, there has ever been.

My view is that there is enough of the electorate have voted for a left of centre party that a progressive Government coalition can be formed - just.


Since the 80's I have always supported PR as - in my opionon - the Conservatives destroyed the social fabric of our country, againgst the majority opioion of our electorate.

PR will end the chance of Labour ever solely running the Country on their own, but then if you only get 40% + of the vote should you really get a landslide parliament.

THe Libs will obvioulsy gain.

But how do we really know what the electorate real voting inentions are. During the nigt I saw enough seats, where the labour voteby x % and a equivalent % went to the LIbs to keep the Tories out. And vice versa. Across SCotland and Wales andthe north East it was clear, the biggest swing was generally to the Tories in very safe Labour seats, in marginals, people voted tactically again.

There must be an end to this.

To rule the UK on your own, a party must get 50.1% of the vote., Otherwise let the oalitions form and lets get parties really representeing the wide views of the electorate.

Yours LC and I am happy to be back.
 






Mellor 3 Ward 4

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
10,233
saaf of the water
As at 10.06 am 7/5/10 the Conservatives have won only 36.1% of the vote, the largest proportion of the vote but not an automatic mandate torun this country.

Basically 64% or nearly two-thirds of the voting have not voted Tory.

Where the Tories are different from the Labour, LIberals. Is that the Tories represent the right (Conservative) element of British Politics. THis election has again shown that the BNP, UKIP are real minnows.

Againgst the Conservatives, the electorate have voted for parties that are overwhelmingly are centre left.

32.4% of the electorate have voted for Socialist Parties in this election (Labour. SNP. PC, Greens, SF etc).

So the UK really is split.

The Lim DEms entered thgis election with what was a left of centre principles. The £10,000 tax threshold, was pure wealth distribution, a cut in our nuclear "deterent. This was the closest manisfesto, to Labour's 83 manisfesto, there has ever been.

My view is that there is enough of the electorate have voted for a left of centre party that a progressive Government coalition can be formed - just.


Since the 80's I have always supported PR as - in my opionon - the Conservatives destroyed the social fabric of our country, againgst the majority opioion of our electorate.

PR will end the chance of Labour ever solely running the Country on their own, but then if you only get 40% + of the vote should you really get a landslide parliament.

THe Libs will obvioulsy gain.

But how do we really know what the electorate real voting inentions are. During the nigt I saw enough seats, where the labour voteby x % and a equivalent % went to the LIbs to keep the Tories out. And vice versa. Across SCotland and Wales andthe north East it was clear, the biggest swing was generally to the Tories in very safe Labour seats, in marginals, people voted tactically again.

There must be an end to this.

To rule the UK on your own, a party must get 50.1% of the vote., Otherwise let the oalitions form and lets get parties really representeing the wide views of the electorate.

Yours LC and I am happy to be back.

Clegg now saying that Party with most seats and votes should seek to form a Government.
 






pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
31,027
West, West, West Sussex
I don't think that the 'old school' Tories would let Cameron do that -it would be a step too far for them IMO

I think could turn into a real issue. I could see Cameron maybe coming to some kind of agreement with Clegg, maybe even agreeing to a referrendum, but selling it to the rest of the Tory party could prove more difficult than reaching the agreement with Clegg in the first place.
 


Monsieur Le Plonk

Lethargy in motion
Apr 22, 2009
1,862
By a lake
The next step should be another round of votes as soon as viably possible, with the public deciding simply between the two parties that had the most votes. Simples.
 


Scotty Mac

New member
Jul 13, 2003
24,405
DONE for the night. Shattered. Been at work since 7.30am this morning. I make that 23 and a half hours.

Off for breakfast and then back on for the council vote.

couple of carrots and you'll be fine :)
 






Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
57,289
Back in Sussex
Have Emily, Paxman and Dimbleby had a break of any note since they started at 10pm last night.
 










Cameron has such support in the inner cities that Hackney North declared Diane Abbot has 25.5K votes - massive majority.
 


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