Gene Simmons ( Kiss ) giving it straight

[birthofanorange]

Whilst in your 'highly immune' state, I assume you are regularly donating your blood plasma to help the cause.

Don't be daft - medical procedures carry risks.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Of course it is a dreadful word to those who are in it: they generally want to be seen as independent minds making their own decisions, not followers of propaganda. Its obviously wrong however: in a world filled with power abuse, biological warfare, endless quests for world domination and totalitarianism, pushing for global injections of anything is logically flawed, senseless and irresponsible, and the reason people buy into it isnt common sense but a case of manipulation of the mind.

I would leave the burning building, I'll give you that. I'd also jump a sinking ship. None of it would harm anyone. I'd never do such a thing as getting a security alarm or install security cameras however, as it could very likely harm someone in the future. Different situations, different choices.

Put that playstation down, FFS.

 

[birthofanorange]

Put that playstation down, FFS.

The one in his head?

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

The one in his head?

Well if he's holding an actual PS5 while playing it he's

a. Hench, and
b. Not playing it right.

 

[Swansman]

Put that playstation down, FFS.

There is quite a lot of evidence of all of the things I mentioned. Its not a video game thing. Its very real, unlike those naive myths you believe in.

 

[Doonhamer7]

But if I'm immune I'm not putting anyone at risk any more than a vaccinated person.

Vaccinations don't have any advantage over natural immunity whatsoever.

They are equivalent, as in the immune system has learned to identify the coronavirus and what tools are required to combat it. Whether the information came from an artificial source, or covid itself, the result is the same in a vaccinated person or a naturally immune person.

I’ll go back to my original comment which you didn’t respond to - so if you get (obviously ‘if’ in your case because you think your superman) with COVID you will not personally seek medical intervention from any part of the NHS.

 

[highflyer]

I am absolutely certain I am highly immune to covid. Everyone in this country has covid antibodies now, but I will have more than many due to frequent exposure to the virus due to my lifestyle.

Immunity wains to some degree, but a healthy immune system has a permanent 'memory' of the pathogens it encounters, which is why covid will never be the threat it was in 2020 ever again.

Oh look, some actual science:

'1 in 5 people with COVID infections won’t get antibodies

Our latest analysis of data from the app shows that one in five ZOE Study participants who tested positive for COVID didn’t go on to have detectable anti-N antibodies afterwards. This means that even if you’ve been infected, you won’t necessarily benefit from the up to 65% protection that we found in some people with a previous infection. For the four in five people who do get anti-N antibodies from infection, your protection is boosted to up to 94% following double vaccination. Read more about the analysis on our blog'

More here [video]https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/covid-infection-antibodies-protection?utm_medium=email&utm_source=zoe_covid_study&utm_campaign=12_november_2021_ GB&utm_source=COVID+-+ZOE+COVID+Study&utm_campaign=1ed107ecb5-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2021_11_12_12_4 5&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_9878f64c38-1ed107ecb5-444423697&mc_cid=1ed107ecb5&mc_eid=870fcbd1bf[/video]

Maybe this thread should be moved to the Covid sub-forum?
Honestly. Never has so much nonsense been written by so few about so little.

 

[birthofanorange]

If I was at any real risk from covid I would have got the vaccine before my current levels of immunity.

I wasn't at risk then and I'm immune now. Even in a year's time if I catch covid again, I'll be ok.

Have you been smoking with [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION]

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

But if I'm immune I'm not putting anyone at risk any more than a vaccinated person.

Vaccinations don't have any advantage over natural immunity whatsoever.

They are equivalent, as in the immune system has learned to identify the coronavirus and what tools are required to combat it. Whether the information came from an artificial source, or covid itself, the result is the same in a vaccinated person or a naturally immune person.

You do NOT know that you have high immunity. Nothing you have said is backed up with data of any sort. Wishful thinking, nothing more nothing less. At best you are lucky in that you show no symptoms however you will still pass it on.

By having the vaccine you greatly reduce the chances of catching it but also reduce the chances of passing it on. This is scientific fact, backed up with real and validated data (easily and readily available on line), which is something that you cannot do regards your wishful thinking.


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[Deportivo Seagull]

If I was at any real risk from covid I would have got the vaccine before my current levels of immunity.

I wasn't at risk then and I'm immune now. Even in a year's time if I catch covid again, I'll be ok.

That makes absolutely no sense what so ever.


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[Swansman]

Have you been smoking with [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION]

Pizza boxes, weed, video games... I suppose these are the tools you try to hit people with when you run out of arguments or never had any.

 

[highflyer]

I just wish some people would admit that they are terrified of needles, rather than spinning themselves into an ever more confusing logical mess trying to justify why they won't get vaccinated. It can be overcome.

I used to hate needles too, but it is almost inevitable that, at some point in your life, you will discover you are actually not invulnerable. And you will need some kind of major medical treatement. At that point it's amazing how quickly 'anti-prevention' people become 'pro-cure' and how quickly that distrust of 'experts' (aka scientists, doctors and nures) will disappear. You'll also have to get very quickly used to having needles stuck in you if your experience is anything like mine when it happens. And you'll get over that fear pretty quickly when the other pain is bad enough.

 

[birthofanorange]

Pizza boxes, weed, video games... I suppose these are the tools you try to hit people with when you run out of arguments or never had any.

Only if the cap fits.

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

Pizza boxes, weed, video games... I suppose these are the tools you try to hit people with when you run out of arguments or never had any.

Alternatively, your stated views aren't worth seriously engaging with.

 

[birthofanorange]

I have been exposed to covid so many times and I never catch it. The only possibility is that I am immune to it.

So sayeth Dr. Mustafa.

FFS.

 

[theboybilly]

Would he have the same opinion if he was 40 years younger and therefore not in a vulnerable group.

Almost certainly not. Like most boomers, self-interest is his utmost priority.

He's right though

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

There is quite a lot of evidence of all of the things I mentioned. Its not a video game thing. Its very real, unlike those naive myths you believe in.

You believe conspiracies, I test hypotheses. I don't 'believe' anything. But we have had this conversation before, and although I don't mind repeating myself, on this occasion I won't.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Pizza boxes, weed, video games... I suppose these are the tools you try to hit people with when you run out of arguments or never had any.

Quite valid when placed directly against a bona fide medical degree, several years of practicing medicine and actual proper science......

 

[Wardy's twin]

I am absolutely certain I am highly immune to covid. Everyone in this country has covid antibodies now, but I will have more than many due to frequent exposure to the virus due to my lifestyle.

Immunity wains to some degree, but a healthy immune system has a permanent 'memory' of the pathogens it encounters, which is why covid will never be the threat it was in 2020 ever again.

So what happened in early 2021 in the second wave , to me it looks like the memory you talk about did not exist....

If the threat from COVID disappears it will be down to those that have been vaccinated who have reduced the total 'mass' or 'load' of the disease.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

I have been exposed to covid so many times and I never catch it. The only possibility is that I am immune to it.

If the above statement is true, which I am certain it is, then having a vaccine will make absolutely no difference towards me catching it or passing it on.

How have you been exposed? secondly you can get it and show no symptoms what so ever. In fact the super spreaders fall into this bracket. I take that you test at least 3 times a week and have done so since the start.


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