In the lat 70s early 80s me and my friends tended to go only to gay 'nightclubs'. Less agro (dangrous times). Only about third of our group were gay. We got a certain amount of grief at the door, but were always let in. Nay bother.
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Gay Only?
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In the lat 70s early 80s me and my friends tended to go only to gay 'nightclubs'. Less agro (dangrous times). Only about third of our group were gay. We got a certain amount of grief at the door, but were always let in. Nay bother.
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Ps why would you struggle with concept? If the hotel floats your boat because you like what you see and within your budget... who cares about other people sexuality?
- Jan 3, 2012
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Because if someone is operating a business where they are selling to the general public, they are not allowed to discriminate against people on any number of grounds including sexuality. It's fairly straightforward, and some of it must be down to the possibility of humiliation and degradation of the people who are refused the service.
And personally as a Christian, I would strongly argue against the view that it is contrary to their faiths and their beliefs. It's not contrary to mine.
- Jan 3, 2012
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If they were breaking the law by stating "Gay Only", would they be able to achieve the same effect by saying something less extreme - We cater mainly for gay people, or similar? genuine question.
I would certainly want to know if I was just about to book in to a "Gay Only" resort, whilst having no problem leaving them to it. It seems to me to be different to a baker or a hotel refusing to accept gay customers. There is a difference between being honest about the nature of the place, and refusing service to people when it has been openly advertised.
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It does seem that the travel agent has placed this specific criteria. Although it may be more semantics than policy.
pastafarian
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Legends Hotel Brighton has this on its opening page
Legends Hotel is a hip, hetero friendly, vibrant gay hotel, bar & club in the most colourful city in Europe
http://www.legendsbrighton.com/
Is that the less extreme version of " Gay Only" you were seeking?
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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Best point made so far. In this instance the advertising of the gay resort is of benefit to all parties and is not excluding anyone. My guess is that should a straight couple push the point they would not be excluded from holidaying here. In this case the adverting is probably more advisory as to the clientele that will be staying.
As usual on NSC there is nothing to see here and we can all move on.
GreersElbow
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So if a couple asked you to, but you couldn't be assed - you'd be breaking the law?
Nope, you'd be fine. But if they could demonstrate that you had accepted a hetero wedding for the same day they wanted, and that they had asked you first and you had declined them, then, if they wanted to make a thing out of it, you'd be in a world of trouble.
It's this point that has always struck me as odd about the cake business in NI. If the shop owners had just said "Sorry, we're too busy atm", none of their problems would have arisen. It was because they were so vocal (for so long and on so many different occasions) about their reasons for not baking the cake that they got the trouble they did. It's almost as though they wanted to court trouble to make a point...
turienzo's lovechild
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I mean, this is quite a simple concept yeah? Gay people just want to go on holiday without being hassled by twats and businesses have set up ways of accommodating this. As stated already in the thread by someone with actual experience of these places, heterosexual people ARE welcome so it's not discriminatory whatsoever- they just need to know what to expect i.e.. if you're the kind of simpleton that finds the sight of two blokes kissing (but ironically you're browser history is probably littered with lesbian porn) then it's not the place for you.
We won't see "straight only" (I presume there aren't any already, if there are they'e probably shit) hotels until a straight couple have their heads kicked in for daring to be attracted to someone else
We won't see "straight only" (I presume there aren't any already, if there are they'e probably shit) hotels until a straight couple have their heads kicked in for daring to be attracted to someone else
- Jan 3, 2012
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Yes - and I see no reason why the sentiments expressed can't be genuine. If anywhere was gay oriented but hetero-hostile, then I would have a problem with that.
On at least two occasions in Brighton I have found myself with hetero friends unwittingly in gay bars in Brighton and had no problem at all. Admittedly it was not at busy times, but....
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All valid points and mostly great responses to this thread but right from the start my questioning was of The Gay Only part of the advertisement! Everything was written in black and this was like a stamp at the side of hotel picture. If it had Gay resort I find that acceptable but when it was put like that I just found it strange!
I'd know that I'd declined because I couldn't be asked, so I wouldn't have broken the law, but I might still be found guilty of breaking it.
You'd don't have to later accept another on the same day to be found guilty, as you know law is never that straight forward. If the couple feel they've been discriminated against and prosecute, you're then somewhat in the lap of the gods.