Gay Marriage - The Vote

[User removed 4]

So you'd rather see a kid grow up in a children's home with a completely unnatural scenario, no two people specifically to raise them, no family unit, no hugs, no parental bond than see the child adopted by a loving, caring committed couple of the same sex? You haven't really thought this through have you?

What part of

" As for the argument about kids staying in care through a lack of adoptive parents, the recent UKIP foster parent case has shown up the care system for what it is . "


are you struggling with ?? you haven't really read my post have you ?

 

[Buck]

I'm very intollerent of stupidity.

Don't stand in front of the mirror then

 

[topbanana36]

Was the creation of homosexual marriages in the Tory party manifesto? I don't seem to remember it, can anyone remember?

 

[Butch Willykins]

Would two Gay Guys have two Stag do's ?

Or would it be one stag do and one hen do? Or two Hen do's? I'm confused. This needs to be cleared up before I can vote.....

 

[Nibble]

What part of " As for the argument about kids staying in care through a lack of adoptive parents, the recent UKIP foster parent case has shown up the care system for what it is . "

are you struggling with ?? you haven't really read my post have you ?

You are completely avoiding answering my question. I suspect because, as usual, you have no other explanation than "Just don't like it". Shambles.

 

[brightn'ove]

How the f*** does saying that i am uncomfortable with it make me homophobic? Im uncomfortable with the rate of immigration in this country. I suppose that makes me a racist. Clueless

Because you haven't provided any reason for it... just saying you are 'uncomfortable' with it isn't a legitimate reason to be against something. Of course you can be 'uncomfortable' with immigration for genuine reasons, such as unemployment; increasing welfare bill etc, but if the reason for your discomfort was because you just don't like foreign people, that would be racist. I didn't say you were homophobic, i am saying that without providing a legitimate reason for your discomfort, you can't say that you aren't homophobic.

 

[Silk]

Was the creation of homosexual marriages in the Tory party manifesto? I don't seem to remember it, can anyone remember?

WTF does that have to do with anything? The problem is things being in the manifesto and NOT happening, not the other way around.

 

[piersa]

Don't stand in front of the mirror then

I didn't realise you were allowed on the internet during school hours

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

It's a no from me.

I believe strongly that marriage should be between a man and a woman.

Perfectly entitled to your opinion. But can I ask why you think that?

 

[Bold Seagull]

...but not gay marriage. Understood.

A fair number of Labour MPs will be voting against this too, I understand. Just when will they modernise?

Yes, so they were expected to bring another bill in that no one asked for at that time just for the sake of it!?

Dear oh dear oh dear. A fair number you say, not exactly a back bench revolt then!?

 

[Twinkle Toes]

Sexist Pig!*



*Joke

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

A massive yes. Its 2013 not 1954, everyone is equal now and if gay people want to be married, then let them be married.

Notice how the Tories against it are all fairly old as well, now im not saying all older people are against it, but their views are stuck in the past.

 

[terryberry1]

Because you haven't provided any reason for it... just saying you are 'uncomfortable' with it isn't a rational reason to be against something. Of course you can be 'uncomfortable' with immigration, but if the reason for your discomfort was because you just don't like foreign people you could be accused of being racist. State your reasons...

Being uncomfortable is a valid reason.

 

[The Spanish]

i think that this debate is a bit harsh in as much as there is very little leeway by the pro-camp given to people who through conditioning and the overall social attitudes up until VERY recently, find it difficult to accept. the prevailing wind is with the pro camp and to their detriment its all a bit Year Zero in terms of understanding the anti or undecided camp and portraying them as bigoted dinosaurs without any acceptance of the causes of the reticence outside religious objection.

i couldnt give two fucks to be honest I like people to be treated fairly and if this is what it takes in our society then so be it. but hectoring and bullying is undignified on either side no matter if one sides had a far harder and more unjust time of it through history. the victors must show compassion to the vanquished.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Its all about equality , Civil Partnerships are seen by the public in general as being an inferior alternative to marriage for same sex couples.

 

[terryberry1]

Would two Gay Guys have two Stag do's ?

Or would it be one stag do and one hen do? Or two Hen do's? I'm confused. This needs to be cleared up before I can vote.....

Its called a sten do

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

Being uncomfortable is a valid reason.

No it isn't.

 

[User removed 4]

You are completely avoiding answering my question. I suspect because, as usual, you have no other explanation than "Just don't like it". Shambles.

Right, let me walk you through this slowly , you should be able to grasp what I say then. You asked me if i would

" rather see a kid grow up in a children's home with a completely unnatural scenario, no two people specifically to raise them, no family unit, no hugs, no parental bond than see the child adopted by a loving, caring committed couple of the same sex?


I replied

" What part of

" As for the argument about kids staying in care through a lack of adoptive parents, the recent UKIP foster parent case has shown up the care system for what it is . "are you struggling with ?? you haven't really read my post have you ?

Thus answering your post, you obviously couldnt work out the point I was trying to make , i'll spell it out for you ,

i believe there are plenty of parents turned down for adoption by biased and frankly, not fit for purpose social services departments, this was highlighted by the local authority who's social services removed a pair of foster children due to the foster parents membership of UKIP.

I can post it in large print if you're still having difficulty ?

 

[Buck]

I didn't realise you were allowed on the internet during school hours

Of course, I must be of school age if I disagree with you. But it's ok for you to suggest that anyone who has religious beliefs is stupid? You sir, are a complete twat!

 

[OzMike]

I gave a yes vote not for any other reason than freedom of choice.