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LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
48,411
SHOREHAM BY SEA
Out of interest, what do you think Starmer should be doing & saying? He came out yesterday and told us his fears that the Track & Trace system is on the brink of collapse, a summation which the evidence seemingly backs up. What should he be doing in your opinion?

Well glad to hear he popped out and said something.
 




Sarisbury Seagull

Solly March Fan Club
NSC Patron
Nov 22, 2007
15,001
Sarisbury Green, Southampton
Can someone help with this a bit as like a lot of people, I'm constantly confused by the change of rules and messages.

It's my other half's 40th at the end of the month and I've booked for 16 of our family from four different households to go to a large open plan restaurant where the four households were all going to be on separate tables. As I understand it now, although the restaurant will still be open and can have that many tables filled with people that don't know each other, I'm going to need to cancel?
 


A1X

Well-known member
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Sep 1, 2017
20,537
Deepest, darkest Sussex


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
Whilst that's not a good tale - why on earth are you using up scarce NHS resources so you can travel? You should be paying for a private test.

I honestly assumed this was a joke post at first.

We're constantly being told that the Government is barely using half of it's testing capacity. So which is it?
 


Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
24,780
GOSBTS
I honestly assumed this was a joke post at first.

We're constantly being told that the Government is barely using half of it's testing capacity. So which is it?

The Government are lying. Plenty of examples this week of people not being able to book tests, being offered test centres hundreds of miles away, people getting to test centres and there being no tests left.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
62,683
The Fatherland
Can someone help with this a bit as like a lot of people, I'm constantly confused by the change of rules and messages.

It's my other half's 40th at the end of the month and I've booked for 16 of our family from four different households to go to a large open plan restaurant where the four households were all going to be on separate tables. As I understand it now, although the restaurant will still be open and can have that many tables filled with people that don't know each other, I'm going to need to cancel?

It’s a social gathering over 6. I think it’s quite clear that you will need to cancel.
 


A1X

Well-known member
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Sep 1, 2017
20,537
Deepest, darkest Sussex
Meanwhile...

[TWEET]1303585409176424448[/TWEET]
 


LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
48,411
SHOREHAM BY SEA
The Government are lying. Plenty of examples this week of people not being able to book tests, being offered test centres hundreds of miles away, people getting to test centres and there being no tests left.

Aye i am seeing a lot of people sharing that same experience on twitter if thats any guide
 




Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
The Government are lying. Plenty of examples this week of people not being able to book tests, being offered test centres hundreds of miles away, people getting to test centres and there being no tests left.

They really are such f.ucking c.unts, aren't they? I'm sorry. I don't care anymore. I'll take a ban if needed.

Comfortably the worst government in my lifetime.
 


Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,455
Hove
I honestly assumed this was a joke post at first.

We're constantly being told that the Government is barely using half of it's testing capacity. So which is it?

How quickly they turn to blame 'the people' for getting tests they didn't need.

#nothingisourfault
 






Dick Swiveller

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2011
9,524
Heard from MIL that Tesco is crazy as people are panic buying. Not sure if she is exaggerating or not.
 


BNthree

Plastic JCL
Sep 14, 2016
11,452
WeHo
Can someone help with this a bit as like a lot of people, I'm constantly confused by the change of rules and messages.

It's my other half's 40th at the end of the month and I've booked for 16 of our family from four different households to go to a large open plan restaurant where the four households were all going to be on separate tables. As I understand it now, although the restaurant will still be open and can have that many tables filled with people that don't know each other, I'm going to need to cancel?

From the sound of it you will need to cancel and each of the 4 different households will all need to book their own table individually. It's not 1 party of 16 but instead 4 parties of 4 (or whatever the numbers are).
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,097
Faversham
same site says only get a test if you have symptoms.

Yes.

Basically it is saying we have a full testing system up and running, but we don't really want too many people using it.

I am a scientist with a PhD and I do biomedical research (on drugs for treating one particular common disease). In my judgement, we should be testing 30-50% of the population weekly for Covid and quickly quarantining people who are positive (currently infected), with full financial and social support.

This means investing hugely in testing and in supporting.

That is costly but it would be far cheaper than the economic and social buggery that is happening as a consequency of HMG's actual 'strategy' and 'tactics'.

Testing is a joke, even if you are 'legally entitled' to it. And in my view a British citizen living abroad ought to be entitled to a test if they fly home. WTF? They have a vote and are entitled to state pension. How are they supposed to know they should go private if they need at test (actually, and that was my point, I don't think this is actually the case, and that [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] and others are invoking a moral rather than legal objection).

HMG is doing everything now to save money. We are living in a 'house' that is falling apart and leaking 'money' from multiple broken windows, eaves and cracks in the wall. HMG is trying to sound calm as it asks some of us to plug a crack if they can possibly manage, while promising that broken window tests are available (call this number).
 




Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,455
Hove
Meanwhile...

[TWEET]1303585409176424448[/TWEET]

So [MENTION=9708]Farehamseagull[/MENTION] is potentially seeing a birthday restaurant booking all on separate tables needing to be cancelled while thousands attend a horse racing meeting still. Very clear messaging.

Further restrictions may well be needed, but if all credibility and trust in the government is gone, who is listening? :shrug:
 


BNthree

Plastic JCL
Sep 14, 2016
11,452
WeHo
Yes, but what I don't understand is why the restaurant can still be open and have the same number of people at exactly the same number of tables within the same proximity of each other?

That's what none of us understand!
 


Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
57,284
Back in Sussex
To be fair, at what time has the government announced that if you work overseas and come home to see family, if there is a need for a Covid test you will be required to pay for it privately?

If there is such a published statement, e.g. on the NHS website, I'm happy to apologise. Link?

Edit, there is nothing on the NHS website specifically, but reading between the lines you can only get a test on the NHS 'if you live in England' - see below. Take note of that, you overseas living British citizens, when you get the urge to visit family.

View attachment 128146

None of those apply - the poster was talking about him wanting to fly to Dubai and needed a test prior to travel.

He wasn't flying back to the UK.

Edit: also, as [MENTION=3462]Springal[/MENTION] said, my understanding is many territories would only accept a private test, taken very, very shortly before travel backed with a certificate. The NHS tests don't do this, because they are not designed to play to the whims of those who choose to travel.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,097
Faversham
None of those apply - the poster was talking about him wanting to fly to Dubai and needed a test prior to travel.

He wasn't flying back to the UK.


Yes. Back to where he lives/works after having come home to the UK for whatever reason.
 




Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,504
Worthing
The colossal **** up after **** up isn't by accident, it's by design... They know full well what they are doing!

That would suggest competence.... That doesn’t convince me.
 


Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
24,780
GOSBTS
Like I say- it is all a moot point because with the NHS tests you don't actually get a certificate that most countries want.

You get a text message or an email with the results, rather than a dated certificate. Plenty of examples of people having issues with this at borders of other countries.

https://www.emirates.com/uk/english/help/flying-to-and-from-dubai/tourists-travelling-to-dubai/

Bring an official, printed certificate – SMS and digital certificates are not accepted.
 


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