[Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

[Titanic]

Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

Gary Lineker to step back from presenting Match of the Day until agreement reached on social media use - BBC statement

www.bbc.co.uk

Gary Lineker is to step back from presenting Match of the Day until an agreement is reached on his social media use - BBC statement.
It follows an impartiality row over comments he made criticising the government's new asylum policy.
In a tweet, the presenter had compared the language used by the government to set out its plan to "that used by Germany in the 30s".

 

[Is it PotG?]

No presenters or pundits tomorrow

Brighton might get more of a mention then.

 

[rogersix]

Utilising the 600,000 empty homes would help.

There’s more land used up by golf courses in this country than housing.

have you a sauce for the golf courses, that's very funny, they must use a lot of drinking water!

 

[ManOfSussex]

Made his opinions clear, and gave his money to the victims families?

Sanctimonious and hollow claptrap.

I've always thought NSC is really sweet whenever you try and join in.

 

[Is it PotG?]

I've always thought NSC is really sweet whenever you try and join in.

Why thank you kind Sir.

 

[Springal]

Brighton might get more of a mention then.

You obviously don’t watch then, we get a lot
Of praise

 

[LamieRobertson]

Let's see if you can work out which policy caused this?

It suggests more than just one policy …. but a multitude …going back to the repeal of the Town and Country Act of 1947..and the effect of that and another one passed in 1961 (the name of which escapes me)….concentration of house building in the hands of a powerful few (Tory donors)…sitting on land banks (to increase profit), rather than building houses and make a profit just that way … with many small house builders going bust in 2008…..etc etc ..a lot of angles discussed but i am only 50% of the way through.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Weaponising impartiality, we all do it. I do. But when tempers calm down…Btw, I wrote to BBC once and never got a reply. Didn’t read more into it than they probably get thousands such letters and didn’t have time to respond.

Anyway, checking out for tonight. Made points. Pretty fairly I think.

They replied but fobbed me off.

 

[Is it PotG?]

You obviously don’t watch then, we get a lot
Of praise

Don't watch the wokie Beeb as a rule

 

[ManOfSussex]

Don't watch the wokie Beeb as a rule

Bless. Like you don't read The Guardian.

 

[aolstudios]

I’ve posted twice that Braverman’s rhetoric was also the worst thing. I also said that the ramping up of language by both sides leads to a polarisation of views.

I hope I’m right, I really don’t see Albanians or Romanians being beaten up and murdered over this. We’re a fair country (the people, courts, charities, systems to help UK entrants), to me that outweighs the malicious intent by a few knuckle-draggers.

The Germany so seeds was a mass, organised campaign by huge political parties and right wing Prussian power brokers to hate others. Have a look at their evil posters, portraying ethnic groups as subhuman. We’ll have to agree to disagree, I think 1930’s Germany did not look remotely like 2023 UK. Italy, Germany and Sweden have hugely accelerated their deportations of all Albanians and others, often in a very swift manner. Are we saying that they’re also acting like 1930’s Germany?

Agreed. I think this govt, this policy & Braverman are disgusting but not everything has to be Nazis & Hitler. Lazy generalisations like GLs diminish their particular evil & frankly insult the Jewish experience. As someone pointed out today, a parallel between the UK's behaviour then (pre war) & now would be fair. This isn't

 

[Randy McNob]

There were some inferred questions in my post Why do people want to come here? and why do they seek to do so illegally? Or I am I to assume that you are in favour of totally unregulated immigration. Good luck with selling that as a policy. Obviously you must subscribe to the sort of rubbish that Lineker tweets whereas contrary to what he says the Uk has the second largest immigration in Europe after Germany

I think most people are standing up for free speech rather than endorsing his opinion

 

[Wozza]

No presenters or pundits tomorrow

Thought you were joking.

Tories literally making everyone turn on the BBC. Desperate times.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Bless. Like you don't read The Guardian.

Their film reviews are decent, so long as they don't mention yoga weekends or yoghurt knitting.

 

[Icy Gull]

No presenters or pundits on MOTD tomorrow, I guess that means more football, why’s not to like? I don’t need to have games explained to me either. No “what has happened at “insert BIG club”

 

[HH Brighton]

Calm down dear. You become part of the problem by citing extremes in an effort to “to win the internet” (as Bozza so beautifully wrote).

Nobody is being silenced. The Tories aren’t the Nazis. Braverman shouldn’t be Home Secretary. And Gary’s been a fool. About the sum of it really when you think

Calm down dear. You become part of the problem by citing extremes in an effort to “to win the internet” (as Bozza so beautifully wrote).

Nobody is being silenced. The Tories aren’t the Nazis. Braverman shouldn’t be Home Secretary. And Gary’s been a fool. About the sum of it really.

V neck sweater, pipe in one hand and the daily ma in the other.

 

[Paskman]

Every cloud.........

 

[Weststander]

so how do these people get these ideas in their heads, as TB states above, attacking the RNLI?!

our politicians using inciteful language, corrupting the public broadcaster, how much more damage are they going to create? it's a long time to the GE, so individuals are having to make a stand and they are the bad guys?

I think @TB agreed with me that this policy after legal challenges won’t actually occur by Dec 2024. I’m calmly relaxed that one way or another it’s screwed in that we won’t see all parts in place.

Lineker isn’t a bad person at all. But I think his analogy in the big picture of what’s happened and is happening in the modern world (Putin, Uyghurs) is ill informed and nonsense.

 

[Springal]

Thought you were joking.

Tories literally making everyone turn on the BBC. Desperate times.

This is right I reckon

 

[chickens]

Lol..he referred to Germany (a nazi state) in the 30’s …as good as i would have thought?

He pointed out the similarities in the language being used by Braverman and this government in their dog whistle rhetoric, and that used by Germany in the 1930’s to justify their actions.

He did not accuse the British Government of being Nazis, but pointed out that the current government’s rhetoric was increasingly dehumanising, in a manner used by Germany in the build-up to Nazism, a tool used to dehumanise entire groups in society, allowing the government to act against them with relative impunity.

Any government that believes it is behaving properly hears criticism and refutes it through argument, defending its position. This government has not attempted to defend the rhetoric used, it has “played the man not the ball” and deflected all the attention onto the individual who has criticised them. An old trick, but clearly still effective.

I’m personally uncomfortable with the rhetoric employed by this government, I believe GL was right to call it out (provided his criticism was genuinely felt, which I’ve no reason to doubt)

However, even if I disagreed with GL, I would accept his right to an opinion and would hope an elected government of any political stripe would be able to defend itself by argument on the issue under discussion, rather than the person criticising them.

To my mind there’s real danger here. People with real (and natural) concerns over overcrowding, infrastructure and public services are being manipulated to ignore the government’s role in mismanaging its budgets and public services, and instead blame certain, often marginalised sections of the public.

E.g. “We can’t have public services because we’re being swamped with immigrants and it’s costing us billions.” Or “You can’t get a doctor’s appointment because it’s full of hormonal teenagers trying to get a sex change.”

This taps into something deep in human nature, something lots of people instinctively feel, the idea that their cultural identity is under attack from one or more groups of people who can be ‘othered’ and therefore they must mobilise to defend themselves. It’s a powerful and dangerous tool.

Those who don’t want to be closely scrutinised tend to be good at creating diversionary sideshows that distract people, take their attention, pit them against others, and often keep them angry.

I’m sorry to have written such an essay, but honestly it’s my belief that all of us, whether our politics are left or right, are being manipulated to a lesser or greater extent (I include myself in this) to stay angry and divided. I honestly believe that we are becoming increasingly divided and hostile by design, rather than by random changes in society. If we’re fighting amongst ourselves, we’re not scrutinising and challenging those who actually hold power. The best we can do is try to stay calm with each other and respectful regardless of our differences.

Apologies again for the essay.

 

[Weststander]

Agreed. I think this govt, this policy & Braverman are disgusting but not everything has to be Nazis & Hitler. Lazy generalisations like GLs diminish their particular evil & frankly insult the Jewish experience. As someone pointed out today, a parallel between the UK's behaviour then (pre war) & now would be fair. This isn't.

We went to Jewish museums, also a Communist museum, in Prague last week. More people should immerse themselves in these things from time to time. Lessons never to be forgotten on unimaginable cruelty, loss of liberties, also giving a sense of perceptive and where we’re so lucky just now.