[Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

[Titanic]

Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

Gary Lineker to step back from presenting Match of the Day until agreement reached on social media use - BBC statement

www.bbc.co.uk

Gary Lineker is to step back from presenting Match of the Day until an agreement is reached on his social media use - BBC statement.
It follows an impartiality row over comments he made criticising the government's new asylum policy.
In a tweet, the presenter had compared the language used by the government to set out its plan to "that used by Germany in the 30s".

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

It's f***ing amazing value for money. I'd pay the licence fee just for Radio 5, TMS and Warren and Johnny let alone everything else the BBC has to offer. Still once the right wing idiots finally get their wish and destroy one of the best institutions this country has, that is respected the world over they'll have one less thing to moan about.

I agree with everything you say about the value for money but sniping about the BBC comes from both left and right. Constant accusations of bias from both sides in order to get their own way may bring it down eventually. The world will be a worse place if that happens.

 

[highflyer]

Indeed. I remember David Cameron criticising Jimmy Carr for it, despite that being how his dad made money and him being a beneficiary

Most wealthy people will be paying less tax than any sane, rational, person will think they should. That's just how things are set up. And won't change in any significant way under Starmer, any more than it did under Blair.

"It’s almost like the Government is a bit more relaxed about tax dodging than they are about poor people over-claiming benefits,”

How the wealthy dodge taxes - and how our 'rigged' system helps them do it legally

The 'Rebel Accountant' explains why our unfair tax system should anger us more than avoidance schemes

inews.co.uk

 

[worthingseagull123]

Utter tosh. If you can't find 44p's worth of value within the radio, TV (including iPlayer) or website every day (or £13.25 a month), then you're not trying hard enough.

Just yesterday I read a story by an investigative journalist (among many other bits on the website) that was worth the money alone.

No, of course the BBC is not perfect, but to call it 'poor value for money', is just absolute nonsense.

It is not nonsense. We are all entitled to our own opinions. For the amount of use I have of the BBC, I find it poor value for money. Hence I’ll ditch the licence.

Others may watch it every day, hence it is great value for money.

 

[beorhthelm]

Most wealthy people will be paying less tax than any sane, rational, person will think they should. That's just how things are set up. And won't change in any significant way under Starmer, any more than it did under Blair.

"It’s almost like the Government is a bit more relaxed about tax dodging than they are about poor people over-claiming benefits,”

How the wealthy dodge taxes - and how our 'rigged' system helps them do it legally

The 'Rebel Accountant' explains why our unfair tax system should anger us more than avoidance schemes

inews.co.uk

most wealthy people will be paying far more tax than others. paying 100k is more than 10k, unless politically spun. what you mean is they might have a lower marginal rate, because asset sales are taxed at a lower rate than higher rate personal income, though above basic rate personal income. its the same for the pensioner as it is for the wealthy MP or TV celeb, and a average earner will pay less. you're hoodwinked into believing there is a problem from those marginal rates on a total without context. you're right it wont change, the pattern is consistent with other countries, just the rates change a few %.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

It is not nonsense. We are all entitled to our own opinions. For the amount of use I have of the BBC, I find it poor value for money. Hence I’ll ditch the licence.

Others may watch it every day, hence it is great value for money.

That's exactly my point. Just because you don't use it, doesn't mean it is 'poor value for money'. Objectively, getting access to numerous radio stations, a back catalogue of TV (in addition to the actual channels) and thousands of web pages, for under 50p a day is a good deal.

I don't use buses (apart from ones to/from the Albion, but I can see that schemes where you can ride around on one all day for a few quid on one is money well spent. You don't have to like or use something to see the value in it.

 

[beorhthelm]

It is not nonsense. We are all entitled to our own opinions. For the amount of use I have of the BBC, I find it poor value for money. Hence I’ll ditch the licence.

Others may watch it every day, hence it is great value for money.

there's an good point in there being over looked - individual's sense of value. many people value the BBC output and see the licence fee is good value (i do myself). other's do not. that's fine, they should have the right to not buy that service, just as we dont force anyone to buy Sky or Netflix subs. difference is, unlike about any other non-government service we are forced to pay for this even if we dont want it.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

there's an good point in there being over looked - individual's sense of value. many people value the BBC output and see the licence fee is good value (i do myself). other's do not. that's fine, they should have the right to not buy that service, just as we dont force anyone to buy Sky or Netflix subs. difference is, unlike about any other non-government service we are forced to pay for this even if we dont want it.

I disagree. Sky etc are commercial businesses. The BBC is a public service. It is a part of the fabric of our community and as such everybody should contribute. There is indirect benefit to everybody in the making of cultural and educational content. Numerous examples, but if you have kids at high school they will be using BBC Bitesize in their learning, so the parent who never watches the BBC should still be paying. More generally everybody benefits from living in a society that is enriched by commercially unviable BBC content.

 

[highflyer]

most wealthy people will be paying far more tax than others. paying 100k is more than 10k, unless politically spun. what you mean is they might have a lower marginal rate, because asset sales are taxed at a lower rate than higher rate personal income, though above basic rate personal income. its the same for the pensioner as it is for the wealthy MP or TV celeb, and a average earner will pay less. you're hoodwinked into believing there is a problem from those marginal rates on a total without context. you're right it wont change, the pattern is consistent with other countries, just the rates change a few %.

'unless politically spun'

followed by...spin.

righto.

 

[beorhthelm]

I disagree. Sky etc are commercial businesses. The BBC is a public service. It is a part of the fabric of our community and as such everybody should contribute. There is indirect benefit to everybody in the making of cultural and educational content. Numerous examples, but if you have kids at high school they will be using BBC Bitesize in their learning, so the parent who never watches the BBC should still be paying. More generally everybody benefits from living in a society that is enriched by commercially unviable BBC content.

it is a public service, and a public good. so fund out of direct taxation since everyone gains.

 

[The Clamp]

It is not nonsense. We are all entitled to our own opinions. For the amount of use I have of the BBC, I find it poor value for money. Hence I’ll ditch the licence.

Others may watch it every day, hence it is great value for money.

Why on earth have you got a licence, then?

It’s akin to saying a buy one get two free offer on biscuits is not value for money while putting them in your basket and tutting.

 

[The Clamp]

What a f***ing rip off.

The BBC's services in the UK

We provide a wide range of programmes, content and services for audiences across the UK on television, radio and digitally

www.bbc.com

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize

Free primary and secondary school teaching resources - BBC Teach

Thousands of free curriculum-mapped videos for your classroom, arranged by subject and age-group; Live Lessons presented by top BBC talent; educational campaigns including Super Movers and Bring the Noise.

www.bbc.co.uk

Secondary Teaching Resources

Teaching resources for secondary school teachers, arranged by subject and age-group.

www.bbc.co.uk

BBC resources | Carnarvon Primary School

Carnarvon Primary School

www.carnarvon.notts.sch.uk

BBC World Service Online - Schedules

This is the daily broadcast schedule for BBC World Service Online

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[worthingseagull123]

Why on earth have you got a licence, then?

It’s akin to saying a buy one get two free offer on biscuits is not value for money while putting them in your basket and tutting.

I’ve Sky at the moment. Until I am out of contract (when I will be cancelling) I have to pay the licence.

 

[The Clamp]

I’ve Sky at the moment. Until I am out of contract (when I will be cancelling) I have to pay the licence.

Do you? Why’s that?

Edit; apologies, yes you do need one for any live telly. I think that will change.

 

[MJsGhost]

I asked chatGPT about the BBC (answer seems about right):

What is the global reputation of the BBC? Does it enhance or tarnish Britain's reputation on the global stage? What do you consider to be the net effect of the BBC on Britain's standing in geopolitics and the global economy?


As an AI language model, I can only provide an analysis based on the information available up to September 2021. Please keep in mind that perceptions and opinions may have evolved since then.

The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) has historically been regarded as one of the world's most reputable and respected news organizations. It has a global reputation for impartiality, accuracy, and in-depth reporting, which has generally contributed positively to Britain's image on the global stage.

However, there have been instances where the BBC's reputation has been questioned due to controversies, such as journalistic scandals, accusations of political bias, and debates surrounding the license fee funding model. These incidents may have tarnished the BBC's reputation to some extent, but overall, the BBC is still widely respected globally.

The net effect of the BBC on Britain's standing in geopolitics and the global economy can be considered positive. The BBC's commitment to impartiality, accuracy, and comprehensive reporting has helped shape Britain's image as a reliable source of information and a promoter of democratic values.

In geopolitics, the BBC World Service plays a vital role in providing news and information to millions of people around the globe, including those in countries where access to independent media is limited. This helps to extend Britain's soft power and influence, as the BBC is often seen as a reliable alternative to state-controlled media in these regions.

In the global economy, the BBC's extensive reporting on business and economic affairs helps to enhance Britain's reputation as a center of expertise in these fields. By providing in-depth analysis and insights into global economic trends, the BBC also contributes to a better understanding of economic developments and promotes informed decision-making among businesses and governments.

Furthermore, the BBC's production of high-quality television and radio programs not only showcases British creativity and talent but also generates revenue through international sales and distribution. The popularity of these programs, such as dramas, documentaries, and nature series, reinforces the positive image of Britain in the global market.

In conclusion, the BBC's global reputation, while sometimes affected by controversies, remains largely positive and continues to contribute to Britain's standing in geopolitics and the global economy. By promoting democratic values, providing reliable information, and serving as a global source of news, the BBC strengthens Britain's soft power and influence on the international stage. Its quality programming not only highlights British talent but also generates economic benefits through international sales and distribution. Overall, the net effect of the BBC on Britain's standing in geopolitics and the global economy is predominantly positive, despite occasional controversies that may impact its reputation to some extent.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

The Beeb is what you get when everyone pays in and there aren't shareholders to feed. A diverse content offer with no ads.

The offshore billionaire media moguls hate this model.

Yep. Like the NHS (before PPI). Thank goodness the Beeb has rebuffed sponsored programming.

 

[JBizzle]

It's £170 per year, and a very small amount per month. Off the top of my head, I watch BBC Breakfast, Attenbrough shows, MotD, Pointless, House of Games, Doctor Who. My wife watched Happy Valley and various other things and my son still watches CBBC having been helped through the homeschooling nightmare no end by Bitesize.

That's excluding all the podcast and radio content and any other shows that I occasionally dip in and out on.

Getting all that for less than two pints of beer a month? The value is incredible for me

 

[worthingseagull123]

I asked chatGPT about the BBC (answer seems about right):

What is the global reputation of the BBC? Does it enhance or tarnish Britain's reputation on the global stage? What do you consider to be the net effect of the BBC on Britain's standing in geopolitics and the global economy?


As an AI language model, I can only provide an analysis based on the information available up to September 2021. Please keep in mind that perceptions and opinions may have evolved since then.

The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) has historically been regarded as one of the world's most reputable and respected news organizations. It has a global reputation for impartiality, accuracy, and in-depth reporting, which has generally contributed positively to Britain's image on the global stage.

However, there have been instances where the BBC's reputation has been questioned due to controversies, such as journalistic scandals, accusations of political bias, and debates surrounding the license fee funding model. These incidents may have tarnished the BBC's reputation to some extent, but overall, the BBC is still widely respected globally.

The net effect of the BBC on Britain's standing in geopolitics and the global economy can be considered positive. The BBC's commitment to impartiality, accuracy, and comprehensive reporting has helped shape Britain's image as a reliable source of information and a promoter of democratic values.

In geopolitics, the BBC World Service plays a vital role in providing news and information to millions of people around the globe, including those in countries where access to independent media is limited. This helps to extend Britain's soft power and influence, as the BBC is often seen as a reliable alternative to state-controlled media in these regions.

In the global economy, the BBC's extensive reporting on business and economic affairs helps to enhance Britain's reputation as a center of expertise in these fields. By providing in-depth analysis and insights into global economic trends, the BBC also contributes to a better understanding of economic developments and promotes informed decision-making among businesses and governments.

Furthermore, the BBC's production of high-quality television and radio programs not only showcases British creativity and talent but also generates revenue through international sales and distribution. The popularity of these programs, such as dramas, documentaries, and nature series, reinforces the positive image of Britain in the global market.

In conclusion, the BBC's global reputation, while sometimes affected by controversies, remains largely positive and continues to contribute to Britain's standing in geopolitics and the global economy. By promoting democratic values, providing reliable information, and serving as a global source of news, the BBC strengthens Britain's soft power and influence on the international stage. Its quality programming not only highlights British talent but also generates economic benefits through international sales and distribution. Overall, the net effect of the BBC on Britain's standing in geopolitics and the global economy is predominantly positive, despite occasional controversies that may impact its reputation to some extent.

They do focus on the big global stories

Cornwall man mistakenly orders 60 pairs of reading glasses

A man goes viral on social media after ordering too many reading glasses.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Eric the meek]

They do focus on the big global stories

https://www.bbc.co.uk/[B]news/uk-en...=owned&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_medium=social

I see where you've gone awry. For 'big global stories', you're not looking in the right place.

You will find global news under the 'world' tab:

World | Latest News & Updates | BBC News

Get all the latest news, live updates and content about the World from across the BBC.

www.bbc.co.uk

The article you've referenced is under the 'uk-england-cornwall' tab:

Cornwall man mistakenly orders 60 pairs of reading glasses

A man goes viral on social media after ordering too many reading glasses.

www.bbc.co.uk

Hope this helps. Best of luck in your next google search.

 

[worthingseagull123]

Still, we can pay Gary millions.

 

[BadFish]

So this thread has now become a platform for a couple of posters to share their dislike of the BBC. Great, thanks for that we get it now.

I always assume that these few noisy posters are the outliers in the UK as as far as I can see the BBC is still loved and respected both in the UK and worldwide.

Maybe we can make a specific thread for moaning and the BBC and whether or not you are going to pay your licence. Who knows we might even get some interesting debate about the licencing model.