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[Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD



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Gary Lineker is to step back from presenting Match of the Day until an agreement is reached on his social media use - BBC statement.
It follows an impartiality row over comments he made criticising the government's new asylum policy.
In a tweet, the presenter had compared the language used by the government to set out its plan to "that used by Germany in the 30s".
 




5Ways Gull

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'The virtue signalling moron'?

The author of that phrase misses the point. Gary Lineker walks the walk. He takes refugees into his own home. He has the funds and room to do it, so he does it.
He doesn't do it for medals. He does it because he believes it is the right thing to do.

Providing for those in need is a simple thing.
Great post. I think the fact that they have replaced the C in BBC with a hammer & sickle gives us a clue regarding the authors political leaning.
 




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'The virtue signalling moron'?

The author of that phrase misses the point. Gary Lineker walks the walk. He takes refugees into his own home. He has the funds and room to do it, so he does it.
He doesn't do it for medals. He does it because he believes it is the right thing to do.

Providing for those in need is a simple thing.
If he’s such a moral man , why didn’t he take a stand over the World Cup & that countries appalling human rights record . Seemed happy to take the money then .
 


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If he’s such a moral man , why didn’t he take a stand over the World Cup & that countries appalling human rights record . Seemed happy to take the money then .
He did criticise Saudi Arabia and the BBC let him do it. He didn’t boycott the tournament, I think it would be unrealistic to expect him to do that, it’s his job.
 




Eric the meek

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If he’s such a moral man , why didn’t he take a stand over the World Cup & that countries appalling human rights record . Seemed happy to take the money then .
I don't know. Perhaps his excitement of the WC transcended his concerns over human rights. Or perhaps he thought it better to be there and witness the human rights issues and sportswashing.

But rather than try to catch him out for what he decides not to do, why not support him in what he does do?
 




BadFish

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If he’s such a moral man , why didn’t he take a stand over the World Cup & that countries appalling human rights record . Seemed happy to take the money then .
He has to take a stand against everything does he? I never understand this argument, it makes no sense at all.
 


Live by the sea

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I’m not saying it’s only Lineker , I’m sure he’s a decent enough man if a little full of himself at times . But lots of well known ‘ celebs’ I hate that word, endorse various good causes concerning justice & human rights but then you find out later they have done a private show or event for some Uber rich person or regime with very dodgy human rights etc . All am I saying is that not everyone is black and white , there are grey areas for many so called celebrities.
 


BadFish

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I’m not saying it’s only Lineker , I’m sure he’s a decent enough man if a little full of himself at times . But lots of well known ‘ celebs’ I hate that word, endorse various good causes concerning justice & human rights but then you find out later they have done a private show or event for some Uber rich person or regime with very dodgy human rights etc . All am I saying is that not everyone is black and white , there are grey areas for many so called celebrities.
So you are criticising Lineker because of some unnamed celebrities have endorsed something but done something else that has got them money from something that may or may not be dodgy. An example of an unnamed person, doing an unnamed thing at an unnamed time.

It's really not the best argument to criticise Gary Lineker with, is it?.
 




Thunder Bolt

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by your own statement, until they've claimed asylum they acted illegally. also, if its legal to cross in a boat, why are we asking for legal routes to be provided? i dont know why people keep getting hung up on this issue, all you're doing to dragging the argument back to a side issue rather than policy. sure its better to use other language such as irregular or undocumented, it doesnt make the act of crossing a border by irregular means lawful. thing is people will cite rights and delarations when those documents are very vague on such details (literally one line in the original UN Declaration on Human Rights).
The distinction, at the moment, is that illegal immigrants, when caught, are deported after detention.

This bill, the government is pushing through, is to enable them to imprison every person landing without trial, for deportation, and not consider asylum claims.
This will make matters worse, because the boats will still land, but instead of asking for help, the landers will disappear into the black market, trafficking and other horrors.
 




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The distinction, at the moment, is that illegal immigrants, when caught, are deported after detention.

This bill, the government is pushing through, is to enable them to imprison every person landing without trial, for deportation, and not consider asylum claims.
This will make matters worse, because the boats will still land, but instead of asking for help, the landers will disappear into the black market, trafficking and other horrors.
If the government's Rwanda policy ever gets off the ground it will cover 2 days worth of arrivals. Their plan is completely unworkable and it won't be a deterrent
 






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Hopefully Gary sues him and gives the money to a refugee charity
That would be sweet. I am sure he'd find a lefty lawyer to work pro bono so they can buy more dingees
 




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This appears to be an actual MP and not as I assumed a comedy character
After the good work that Tim Davie did to calm the waters and reduce the temperature, now this happens.

Here is what Sunak said:

'Let’s be clear, when I talk about upsetting people I’m talking about the Twitterati, the Wokerati of north Islington, those champagne socialists who pontificate all day.
“Those are the people I don’t care upsetting, because those are the people who want to call people up here racist bigots, Nazis, like Gary Lineker has done.”

This is language - and falsehood - unbecoming of our Prime Minister.
 


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After the good work that Tim Davie did to calm the waters and reduce the temperature, now this happens.

Here is what Sunak said:

'Let’s be clear, when I talk about upsetting people I’m talking about the Twitterati, the Wokerati of north Islington, those champagne socialists who pontificate all day.
“Those are the people I don’t care upsetting, because those are the people who want to call people up here racist bigots, Nazis, like Gary Lineker has done.”

This is language - and falsehood - unbecoming of our Prime Minister.
What are you doing? It wasn't Sunak saying that!
 


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After the good work that Tim Davie did to calm the waters and reduce the temperature, now this happens.

Here is what Sunak said:

'Let’s be clear, when I talk about upsetting people I’m talking about the Twitterati, the Wokerati of north Islington, those champagne socialists who pontificate all day.
“Those are the people I don’t care upsetting, because those are the people who want to call people up here racist bigots, Nazis, like Gary Lineker has done.”

This is language - and falsehood - unbecoming of our Prime Minister.
I think you've mis-read that article. The quote is clearly attributed to Jonathan Gullis.
 








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