Gary Glitter to be deported back to the UK!

[Lady Whistledown]

That sounds like a fair punishment really, mess with kids, get your life messed up.

Oh I don't feel remotely sorry for him, was just pondering where he'll end up and how many times he'll be chased out by mobs of seething, pitchfork-waving bottom-feeders (all hoping he moves to the estate of another mob of pitchfork-waving, bottom feeders, obviously). Still, I'm sure he considered that outcome when in bed with a couple of 13 year old Vietnamese girls.

Imagine bumping into him in Tesco. Personally, I think breaking into a loud chorus of "Rock 'n ro-----oll HEY! Rock 'n roll!" in the bread aisle while pointing at him with a freshly baked French stick would do far more to humilate him than yelling "paedo" ever would.

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

I suggest that any one of the many posters on NSP donates their laptop to GG as their trawling through the wank bank will be enough incriminating evidence to have him sent back down

so you're insinuating that there are people who go on nsp who look at child pornography, and are therefore paedophiles

yeah, clever that

 

[Les Biehn]

Oh I don't feel remotely sorry for him, was just pondering where he'll end up and how many times he'll be chased out by mobs of seething, pitchfork-waving bottom-feeders (all hoping he moves to the estate of another mob of pitchfork-waving, bottom feeders, obviously). Still, I'm sure he considered that outcome when in bed with a couple of 13 year old Vietnamese girls.

Imagine bumping into him in Tesco. Personally, I think breaking into a loud chorus of "Rock 'n ro-----oll HEY! Rock 'n roll!" in the bread aisle while pointing at him with a freshly baked French stick would do far more to humilate him than yelling "paedo" ever would.

Really? I'm pretty sure the shout of Peado would be more embarrassing.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

so you're insinuating that there are people who go on nsp who look at child pornography, and are therefore paedophiles

yeah, clever that

I was thinking more along the lines of those NSPers who are into bestiality ,necrophilia and BDSM

 

[Juan Albion]

Am I not right in thinking the UK now has laws that mean they can charge people who travel abroad for underage sex? If so, has there been any talk of charging him on his return?

 

[BensGrandad]

He can't have much cash in the bank after spending years in prison, so I doubt he'll be able to buy an expensive hideaway, while he won't be able to move abroad (I don't think) as most countries won't give him a visa.

According to the papers he is very wealthy and is negotiating a comeback tour, which they expect to be a sell out, for whatever reason.

Can they not trump up a charge and arrest him when he lands in Britain then leave him to fight the appeals etc and hopefully he will be dead by the time he is due for release as he must be getting on a bit.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Can they not trump up a charge and arrest him when he lands in Britain then leave him to fight the appeals etc and hopefully he will be dead by the time he is due for release as he must be getting on a bit.

They now think he has links with Al Qaeda as Mr Bin Laden enjoys listening to Gary Glitter on his i-pod . Grounds certainly to detain him and give him remand at Belmarsh when he returns.

 

[Pavilionaire]

I wonder if he'll do some kind of comeback tour. Be good to see him dust off the old platform boots.

I heard he's doing a pub tour, starting at The Mean Fiddler...

 

[Gwylan]

Am I not right in thinking the UK now has laws that mean they can charge people who travel abroad for underage sex? If so, has there been any talk of charging him on his return?

There is such a law now I believe but you still can't be charged twice for the same offence so they'd have to find new charges to pin on him.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

There is such a law now I believe but you still can't be charged twice for the same offence so they'd have to find new charges to pin on him.

Havent they repealed the law on double jeopardy ? This was being debated when Russell Bishop was coming up for an early release hearing about a year or so ago.

 

[Cian]

Havent they repealed the law on double jeopardy ? This was being debated when Russell Bishop was coming up for an early release hearing about a year or so ago.

Sort of. However, Glitter has been convicted, not acquited; and theres no 'new and compelling' evidence which is what is required for a double-jeapordy breach.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Gary Glitter and Johnathon King - The Double Jeopardy Tour
Wouldn't let my kids go to this one.

 

[Juan Albion]

There is such a law now I believe but you still can't be charged twice for the same offence so they'd have to find new charges to pin on him.

I don't really think that is an issue. He has been found guilty of particular actions. But I thought he could be charged for simply going there with intent. That is a different offence.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I don't really think that is an issue. He has been found guilty of particular actions. But I thought he could be charged for simply going there with intent. That is a different offence.

While the act of travelling abroad with the intent to commit a relevant child sex offence is a separate offence, there would have to be different circumstances for him to be charged with it.

It tends to be used as a preventative measure, because it's a lot harder to prove (it's much easier to prove someone's actually done a particular act than whether they were thinking about it or not).

Unless a completely different set of circumstances come up- ie a new victim, it's just not going to happen. And frankly, if a new victim came forward, they'd stick him on for the substantive offence, not the "intent" one.

To charge him with travelling etc for what he's already been convicted of in the Far East would be like charging someone with burglary and attempted burglary for the same hit on the same house.

Sadly, I think he's going to be a free man, albeit within the restraints of the sex offenders register and various other measures to restrict his activities.

 

[Juan Albion]

While the act of travelling abroad with the intent to commit a relevant child sex offence is a separate offence, there would have to be different circumstances for him to be charged with it.

It tends to be used as a preventative measure, because it's a lot harder to prove (it's much easier to prove someone's actually done a particular act than whether they were thinking about it or not).

Unless a completely different set of circumstances come up- ie a new victim, it's just not going to happen. And frankly, if a new victim came forward, they'd stick him on for the substantive offence, not the "intent" one.

To charge him with travelling etc for what he's already been convicted of in the Far East would be like charging someone with burglary and attempted burglary for the same hit on the same house.

Sadly, I think he's going to be a free man, albeit within the restraints of the sex offenders register and various other measures to restrict his activities.

I don't see why a separate victim would be a problem. I seem to remember he was kicked out of at least one country before making his way to Vietnam, where he was actually convicted. There was considerable evidence in one of the other countries, I believe, but they chose to boot him out rather than charge him. That is where the new charges could be based.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I don't see why a separate victim would be a problem. I seem to remember he was kicked out of at least one country before making his way to Vietnam, where he was actually convicted. There was considerable evidence in one of the other countries, I believe, but they chose to boot him out rather than charge him. That is where the new charges could be based.

Yes, but if those countries have chosen simply to kick him out rather than try him, what do you think are the chances that the authorities in this country could gather enough evidence to secure a reasonable prospect of conviction (the measure by which the CPS decide whether to charge someone in the UK)? Most of his victims are probably anonymous kids out in the sticks as well.

He would have an instant claim that he was being tried by media, and that any outcome would be unfairly prejudiced by the coverage. He would also claim that any victims coming forward now have also been thus influenced, or are making it up based on their knowledge of his background, whether to make money or whatever.

I know what you're saying, but I also have a reasonable understanding of our legal system, and can thus tell you all the obstacles that will instantly be in the way of trying Glitter here. I think the bloke's an utter dirtbag, but his legal rights are the same as any of us, right or wrong, and any solicitor of his will be all over any bid to stick him on when he returns.

That said, I recall some media rumour a few years back that the authorities here were seeking to speak to him about various matters here, so who knows, maybe there is still outstanding stuff surrounding him.

 

[Juan Albion]

Yes, but if those countries have chosen simply to kick him out rather than try him, what do you think are the chances that the authorities in this country could gather enough evidence to secure a reasonable prospect of conviction (the measure by which the CPS decide whether to charge someone in the UK)? Most of his victims are probably anonymous kids out in the sticks as well.

No, I seem to remember there was plenty of evidence and no secrecy about the victims but it was cheaper and quicker for them to boot him out. Can't say I blame them not wanting to spend good money on our trash, although I don't suppose the victims and their families felt the same.

If I get time, I'll try and dig up what I found a while back.

 

[1066gull]

is he bringing Maddie back with him?

I thought she was in an Austrian cellar?

 

[Juan Albion]

I thought she was in an Austrian cellar?

Yeah, hilarious.

 

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I thought she was in an Austrian cellar?

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