Fund run by David Cameron’s father avoided paying tax in Britain (Panama leaks)

[Diego Napier]

Interesting to see at least three current leaders of countries and close friends of Putin and many other serving politicians are named as having personally used this service but the Guardian/Beeb seem more interested in someone's dad who died several years ago.

It's not just someone's dad though is it?

It's the dad of the pig's head f*cker who just happens to be the current prime minister of Britain.

 

[W.C.]

Interesting to see at least three current leaders of countries and close friends of Putin and many other serving politicians are named as having personally used this service but the Guardian/Beeb seem more interested in someone's dad who died several years ago.

Odd comment. The Guardian were leading with the Putin angle when they broke this story.

 

[larus]

They'd certainly do a better job than the continual blind-eye this government turns to their family and friends

Why can't you just accept that it's the political class? The problem with so many is that they view labour as some kind of group that do n't dip their snouts in the trough and feather their own nests. Kinnocks done very well on the Euro gravy-train. Blairs made millions.

All the time the political class can fool the electorate into the 'scroungers' vs 'bankers' mind-set (yes, over simplification I accept), we won't focus on the real issue, which is the super-rich/elite/large corporations getting away with hardly paying any tax. The difference in tax raised by going from 40% to 50% for those on PAYE within the UK is negligible, but is such a rallying cry for the left. Don't you see the stupidity of this argument. We're all fighting the wrong battle with politics - we're being played!

 

[Stato]

Odd comment. The Guardian were leading with the Putin angle when they broke this story.

This is true, and variously throughout the day they led with whatever was the latest breaking news from the leak, including the Icelandic president and banks linked to North Korea. This morning they have been leading on the links to the Assad family. If the Snowden leaks are anything to go by, The Guardian will continue to trawl through, consider implications and report what they find over the next week or two, regardless of who it upsets.

 

[spring hall convert]

I don't find it at all strange that a paper like the Guardian would try to score political points through someone's dead father.

You should probably ask the Millibands about that.

 

[scamander]

this is the excuse they need to get rid of him .................he is now a liability and and george is not looking all that safe either, niether would have wanted this right now

Except he is already planning on going. Attacking him seems somewhat pointless seeing as he'll be off shortly, there's a vested interest somewhere. Perhaps with all the Tory infighting it's a case of someone settling a score...

 

[spring hall convert]

Most of the time his father was doing this, it was under a Labour Government (he died just 4 months after the coalition deposed the Labour Government that held power for 13 years)

It smacks of double standards that Labour are now calling for a clampdown by the Government only due to the leaks, but a) they knew it was happening when in power and b) did nothing to tackle it themselves when in power

It's just the typical points scoring political b.s. we always get zzzzz. His father has been dead for nearly 6 years but people are focusing on that when current political leaders of other are doing this now whilst in still in power.

The headline figure is 140 politicians involved, but how many, if any, are current UK politicians? Everyone jumps to the conclusion it's all about the UK

For how much longer are the current Labour Party going to be charged with being the worst of Blair/ Brown AND the worst of Wilson?

They can't be both.

I have a strong suspicion that had a Corbyn led administration been in charge, there would have been action. But you already knew that didn't you?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

It's not just someone's dad though is it?

It's the dad of the pig's head f*cker who just happens to be the current prime minister of Britain.

You get the point though there are numerous bigger fish with direct current links to fry. There is no evidence that the PM or phf if you prefer has personally used this company or had any control or responsibility for his father's business or done anything illegal. But linking him to the story via his dead father certainly suits a few agendas. To be clear if there was direct evidence of illegality or personal gain for him through his decisions to deliberately avoid paying tax in the UK I will happily join the baying mob.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Odd comment. The Guardian were leading with the Putin angle when they broke this story.

I was commenting on yesterdays news agenda which seemed to mainly focus on the deceased rather than the living.As you say odd.

 

[Bold Seagull]

You get the point though there are numerous bigger fish with direct current links to fry. There is no evidence that the PM or phf if you prefer has personally used this company or had any control or responsibility for his father's business or done anything illegal. But linking him to the story via his dead father certainly suits a few agendas. To be clear if there was direct evidence of illegality or personal gain for him through his decisions to deliberately avoid paying tax in the UK I will happily join the baying mob.

You don't want to know whether our PM potentially has inherited trusts / investments / funds that possibly never had proper tax paid on them? That isn't something you think is relevant or newsworthy or only suiting a few agendas? Come on, we need to know a bit more at least don't we? It is surely what journalism is all about.

 

[glasfryn]

You get the point though there are numerous bigger fish with direct current links to fry. There is no evidence that the PM or phf if you prefer has personally used this company or had any control or responsibility for his father's business or done anything illegal. But linking him to the story via his dead father certainly suits a few agendas. To be clear if there was direct evidence of illegality or personal gain for him through his decisions to deliberately avoid paying tax in the UK I will happily join the baying mob.

you might just as well join in then
why else would his father/family use the bank in the first place, its not only me asking this question.

 

[fat old seagull]

You get the point though there are numerous bigger fish with direct current links to fry. There is no evidence that the PM or phf if you prefer has personally used this company or had any control or responsibility for his father's business or done anything illegal.But linking him to the story via his dead father certainly suits a few agendas. To be clear if there was direct evidence of illegality or personal gain for him through his decisions to deliberately avoid paying tax in the UK I will happily join the baying mob.

It only suits a few agendas! ......did he know? Is the account still live? Silly question, I'm sorry 'it's private business'!
Well for my money, if the account had been closed he'd have said so. .... If you're a Tory as seems likely, you should rejoice that the party might move him and his school chum downstairs. He's becoming something of a liability surely.
I used to despise Tony Blair, but Cameron's making him look like a Saint. How much longer will the party try to defend the indefensible ?

 

[highflyer]

It only suits a few agendas! ......did he know? Is the account still live? Silly question, I'm sorry 'it's private business'!
Well for my money, if the account had been closed he'd have said so. .... If you're a Tory as seems likely, you should rejoice that the party might move him and his school chum downstairs. He's becoming something of a liability surely.
I used to despise Tony Blair, but Cameron's making him look like a Saint. How much longer will the party try to defend the indefensible ?

Cameron cannot be held accountable for the actions of his father. And shouldn't be.

However this story came out 3 or 4 years ago, and he has had time to act. If he is still personally benefiting from the company then I'm afraid he is going to get deserved stick - not least for his political stupidity

Cameron can be held accountable for the actions of his government and he needs to act quickly and effectively. It won't make a lot his mates happy and that is the test of a decent leader.

let's see.

 

[glasfryn]

Cameron cannot be held accountable for the actions of his father. And shouldn't be.

However this story came out 3 or 4 years ago, and he has had time to act. If he is still personally benefiting from the company then I'm afraid he is going to get deserved stick - not least for his political stupidity

Cameron can be held accountable for the actions of his government and he needs to act quickly and effectively. It won't make a lot his mates happy and that is the test of a decent leader.

let's see.

so some of the money he made did not go towards daves education then or help him along the way,this is the money that we should have all gained from by tax.
he will resign ...............before his mates stab him in the back

 

[JC Footy Genius]

You don't want to know whether our PM potentially has inherited trusts / investments / funds that possibly never had proper tax paid on them? That isn't something you think is relevant or newsworthy or only suiting a few agendas? Come on, we need to know a bit more at least don't we? It is surely what journalism is all about.

I want to know if any politician has done anything illegal or knowingly benefitted from any illegal action. I also want to know if they have deliberately, knowingly avoided paying tax in the UK. This whole story is relevant and newsworthy. My issue which appears to have been lost or misinterpreted is the apparent feeding frenzy around Cameron via his deceased father driven by numerous agendas which detracts from the far more significant blatantly illegal actions of numerous world leaders and other high profile figures.

you might just as well join in then
why else would his father/family use the bank in the first place, its not only me asking this question.

Are you saying politicians are now to be held responsible for their parent's (dead or alive) decisions?

It only suits a few agendas! ......did he know? Is the account still live? Silly question, I'm sorry 'it's private business'!
Well for my money, if the account had been closed he'd have said so. .... If you're a Tory as seems likely, you should rejoice that the party might move him and his school chum downstairs. He's becoming something of a liability surely.
I used to despise Tony Blair, but Cameron's making him look like a Saint. How much longer will the party try to defend the indefensible ?

Yes damaging the PM by insinuating wrongdoing through his dead father is an agenda. Which specific account are you talking about? You certainly want me to be a Cameron supporting Tory ... I have been slagging the PM off on the EU threads for weeks!

Interesting moral code you have there ... the man who lead us into Iraq on a dubious pretence v the man who's dead father may have exploited (legally as far as we know) tax havens for financial gain. Even if illegality was proved ..no comparison.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

For how much longer are the current Labour Party going to be charged with being the worst of Blair/ Brown AND the worst of Wilson?

They can't be both.

I have a strong suspicion that had a Corbyn led administration been in charge, there would have been action. But you already knew that didn't you?

As being reported, David Cameron's father has done nothing illegal with respect to his accounts caught up in this.

Hasn't stopped the left wing jumping upon this and critising the Tories about it when they also did nothing on their watch - hence double standards. Just the typical left / right point scoring BS going on over a non story (Cameron's father and his accounts)

Also a lot of we are in this together / austerity comments too by left wingers, but as i pointed out, he died 4 months after Labour lost power, hardly the mass rip off / piss take out of austerity that they make out to be

Personally, i'd hope whoever is in power would try to close as many loopholes as appropriate in response

 

[Igzilla]

Personally, i'd hope whoever is in power would try to close as many loopholes as appropriate in response

Seeing as donors to the Tory Party are implicated (as well as donors of other parties, presumably), this is rather naive to expect much in the way of any significant tightening up. Would be interesting to see if any UK political parties have been indirectly funded through these morally bankrupt schemes.

 

[glasfryn]

I want to know if any politician has done anything illegal or knowingly benefitted from any illegal action. I also want to know if they have deliberately, knowingly avoided paying tax in the UK. This whole story is relevant and newsworthy. My issue which appears to have been lost or misinterpreted is the apparent feeding frenzy around Cameron via his deceased father driven by numerous agendas which detracts from the far more significant blatantly illegal actions of numerous world leaders and other high profile figures.



Are you saying politicians are now to be held responsible for their parent's (dead or alive) decisions?



Yes damaging the PM by insinuating wrongdoing through his dead father is an agenda. Which specific account are you talking about? You certainly want me to be a Cameron supporting Tory ... I have been slagging the PM off on the EU threads for weeks!

Interesting moral code you have there ... the man who lead us into Iraq on a dubious pretence v the man who's dead father may have exploited (legally as far as we know) tax havens for financial gain. Even if illegality was proved ..no comparison.

squeaky clean so yes
when I applied to become a prison officer they went back 4 generations, if its good enough for me its good enough for him

 

[glasfryn]

As being reported, David Cameron's father has done nothing illegal with respect to his accounts caught up in this.

Hasn't stopped the left wing jumping upon this and critising the Tories about it when they also did nothing on their watch - hence double standards. Just the typical left / right point scoring BS going on over a non story (Cameron's father and his accounts)

Also a lot of we are in this together / austerity comments too by left wingers, but as i pointed out, he died 4 months after Labour lost power, hardly the mass rip off / piss take out of austerity that they make out to be

Personally, i'd hope whoever is in power would try to close as many loopholes as appropriate in response

as I said before its whats morally and humanly right nothing to do with politics, you are making it that
and also as I said before why use that bank if there was nothing to hide our PM gained from it at the time.

also I have not mentioned politics at all in this thread, its whats decent and straight and this is not either

 

[fat old seagull]

I want to know if any politician has done anything illegal or knowingly benefitted from any illegal action. I also want to know if they have deliberately, knowingly avoided paying tax in the UK. This whole story is relevant and newsworthy. My issue which appears to have been lost or misinterpreted is the apparent feeding frenzy around Cameron via his deceased father driven by numerous agendas which detracts from the far more significant blatantly illegal actions of numerous world leaders and other high profile figures.



Are you saying politicians are now to be held responsible for their parent's (dead or alive) decisions?



Yes damaging the PM by insinuating wrongdoing through his dead father is an agenda. Which specific account are you talking about? You certainly want me to be a Cameron supporting Tory ... I have been slagging the PM off on the EU threads for weeks!

Interesting moral code you have there ... the man who lead us into Iraq on a dubious pretence v the man who's dead father may have exploited (legally as far as we know) tax havens for financial gain. Even if illegality was proved ..no comparison.

Nice shuffling of my suggestions there, you should be in politics. I mentioned it likely you were a Tory, as you were defended him so rigorously. I didn't say 'a Cameron Supporting Tory'. I would now though suggest you are an 'out of Europe Tory'. Once again twisting my statement I never mentioned any wars, my dislike of Tony B Liar is because he suggests he's a Socialist, when in fact he fits much more comfortably into Conservative shoes. Anyway I'm sure the truth will out sometime.