Fuel protest

[Thunder Bolt]

Any increase in fuel duty will affect haulage firms who in turn will pass on the price hike to customers so food, clothing and everything will cost more.

 

[Don Quixote]

I am sure the Chancellor is a lot cleverer than us and knows a lot more about the economy than us. I'd trust him.

 

[newhaven seagull 85]

I am sure the Chancellor is a lot cleverer than us and knows a lot more about the economy than us. I'd trust him.

you do know he is a politician!

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

picket lines at the pumps and loads of abuse too the scabs

 

[Diego Napier]

Petrol is cheap.... and it comes from dangerous places thousands of miles away, and it's running out. £1.31.9 a litre at Tesco on Monday last time I drove.
This Shariz, by contrast, I'm drinking right now was £5.99 for 0.7l at Tesco. Yes, it's from Australia but it's 2010 vintage and there's more growing to replace it.
Protest?
Why worry....

Hah! Excellent, chilled (you not the wine) and applying some sensible logic "Eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die"!

 

[Bwian]

The government see fuel tax as a case of you use it, you pay for it. There aren't many other things they can tax for compensating the money they would lose by reducing petrol/ diesel prices,

However, I do think they should reduce the tax for HGV's as its killing their business and the opportunity to be competitive and help UK business thrive.

Too much time has passed to find viable taxable alternatives to tax on fuel, it was a mistake to hike it so high all those years ago.

It does make you sick to think a litre of petrol in Saudi is cheaper than a litre of bottled water!

I would prefer it if we as a country looked to save money in other ways to reduce fuel prices, i.e. foreign aid, benefits, immigration etc.

No I don't read the daily mail or express, nor am I a racist. I do believe that the government wastes alot of uk taxpayers money regardless of whether they are labour, Tory or otherwise. Time to grow a pair and look after the people whilst telling the likes of Brussels, Germany etc to do one!




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A viable alternative would be to get all of the companies and high earners who manage to avoid tax to pay their frigging taxes like the rest of us

 

[Barrel of Fun]

This. £4 is bloody ridiculous. If there are 3 of us it's about the same price to get a taxi into town. 4 and a taxi is cheaper than a bus, which isn't right.

Go Ahead make large sums of money, don't they?

I would rather sit on an antique, lemon coloured bus, belching out the stale chip fumes than a dashing new/brilliant/marvellous/look what we bought type bus, subsidised (indirectly?) by the taxpayer.

It would be marvellous if there was some sort of competition for public transport in Brighton. Roger French killed the tuk-tuks, he will kill the Big Lemon and anyone else that dares to challenge the monopoly.

 

[Norman Potting]

Britain tops European league table for fuel tax - Telegraph

These stats are trotted out on a regular basis to justify not raising, or cutting, duty. What I have never, ever, seen is a properly constructed comparison of cost per km
countrywide comparing all motoring costs on a like for like basis. Otherwise the impression is that numbers are snatched out of the ether to support or disprove a particular line.

Anyone know where this information may be, or do "they" (Govt., fuel companies, greens, OPEC, Greenpeace, whoever) not want us to know it??

 

[banjo]

Could always get a bike.

 

[CheeseRolls]

I'll agree fuel duty is too high the day I start seeing a real trend for people to trade down to smaller cars, in order to save money. The fact is car keep getting bigger, and the extra cost of fuel has made little difference in general to people's choice of vehicle.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I am sure the Chancellor is a lot cleverer than us and knows a lot more about the economy than us. I'd trust him.

Indeed. I'm sure his 2:1 in Modern History is put to good use when figuring out the finances.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Go Ahead make large sums of money, don't they?

I would rather sit on an antique, lemon coloured bus, belching out the stale chip fumes than a dashing new/brilliant/marvellous/look what we bought type bus, subsidised (indirectly?) by the taxpayer.

It would be marvellous if there was some sort of competition for public transport in Brighton. Roger French killed the tuk-tuks, he will kill the Big Lemon and anyone else that dares to challenge the monopoly.

100% agree with this.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I'll agree fuel duty is too high the day I start seeing a real trend for people to trade down to smaller cars, in order to save money.

Fair point. Someone also once said the price of petrol is too cheap if you can afford to nip to the shops and/or do a school run and other non-essential journies. Is petrol too cheap?

 

[beorhthelm]

interesting the Telegraph piece linked above says we are the highest for duty, but doesnt mentionwe arent the most expensive. see here, where we are cheaper than many for petrol though not so good for diesel. remember we had a big push on diesel duties as it was considered polluting. nothing to do with the increased effciency and move to diesel reducing revenue, i'm sure.

we may be in for a surprise in the coming budget or next, as i read recently that the revenue from fuel duty reduced last autumn. Austerity obviously is a factor but the analysis suggested the fuel escalator/green tax element of duty was doing its job now, discouraging fuel use through switch to smaller high MPG cars. the price elasticity, how much you can rise prices before people stop buying something, might have been stretched as far as it can go.

 

[The Large One]

What a load of bollocks !!!! You should have read the original post properly - he's complaining about the DUTY. The DUTY is determined by the government and should be frozen for at least two years. Duty makes up around 70% of the price we pay at the pump. To make it worse the government first adds fuel duty to the cost of a litre and then charges VAT on that duty - double taxation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, for a £1.41 litre of fuel, duty accounts for 41% of the price.

 

[pauli cee]

over 80% i heard on south(ampton) today goes to government including duty and vat, ( so obviously fact...)
i know this is beating a broken drum, but surely there are a lot fairer ways to gain income/taxes for the government, than crippling people like myself and many others, ( self employed, no choice but to drive a big van around full of tools and equipment, costing £130+ in deisel a week).
bank bonuses etc etc, ( yawn , i know), but i bet they even get fuel expenses!
it would appear that students, civil service workers and basically normal everyday people, ( especially those who might eat, drink, smoke or drive a car/van) are facing far too much of the brunt of this "cutting back", whilst many others are getting away better than scott free.
sorry, touchy subject for me,
and as for the original post......
REVOLUTION FOR THE PEOPLE
xxx

 

[Norman Potting]

I'll agree fuel duty is too high the day I start seeing a real trend for people to trade down to smaller cars, in order to save money. The fact is car keep getting bigger, and the extra cost of fuel has made little difference in general to people's choice of vehicle.

Good point.

 

[vulture]

dont use BP,Shell etc they give all bullshit about making 1p a litre that is bollocks there margin is 8p a litre use Asda etc and the price will come down

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

Hang about didn't Camaron say that he would introduce a fuel regulator, when if the price of petrol went up duty will come down. Did i dream this or was it yet another lie from the idiot.

 

[beorhthelm]

Hang about didn't Camaron say that he would introduce a fuel regulator, when if the price of petrol went up duty will come down. Did i dream this or was it yet another lie from the idiot.

they said they'd look at it some time ago. there was an objection that it would be difficult to administer. i think thats tosh, they manage to change the duty at midnight after the budget, why not have a weekly adjustment.