Free kick Farce..

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sir albion

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Jan 6, 2007
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SWINDON
if certain players don't do what they are told then you drop them. seems to me that JFC is the one always trying to take the set pieces and failing miserably.....
Yeah noticed he seems to bully his way into taking them and then gets embarrassed with a pathetic attempt.That one where we had 3 players teeing it up only for nothing to happen cracked me up.You can see a lot of bickering going on grrr.
 






Felpham Seagull

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May 15, 2013
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Felpham
..why does no one in the team seem to know who is responsible for free kicks around the box? Again we have Gardiner trying to hog the ball whilst JFC Colunga and others are all trying to tell him to **** off.

In the end it was a total balls up as usual with Colunga and Gardiner giving each other verbals for the next five minutes.

All whilst Hypia just sits there doing nothing with his arms folded.

Surely he should make a decision on who will be our dead ball specialist around the box ?

down to to the clueless bin dipper
 




Giraffe

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Aug 8, 2005
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The fact they don't know who is taking the free kick says all you need to know about he coaching set up at the moment. Complete joke.
 


Gordon the Gopher

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Jul 16, 2003
992
Hove
I am baffled about Holla. His first few games he seemed the answer to the holding role with the added bonus that he could take a decent free kick and corner. Weren't some of Dunks goals from his delivery and he has scored from one if memory serves me well. How come he has turned into someone who now rates below JFC, Gardener, Ince and Colunga. Seems like a real waste as remember a couple of Dutch mates quite rated him!
 


Scoffers

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Jan 13, 2004
6,868
Burgess Hill
Total shambles. Nuff said
 




Monsieur Le Plonk

Lethargy in motion
Apr 22, 2009
1,862
By a lake
Total shambles. Nuff said
Last week they were arguing over who was taking the penalty and now it's free kicks. Either the players are not being told in the week or they feel they can overrule any plans once they are on the pitch. Either way it shows complete incompetence and lack of discipline.
Utter mess.
 


portslade seagull

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Jul 19, 2003
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portslade
It wasn't a farce it was all planned by Hyppia on the training ground, it worked well didn't it even fooled the Fulham players who thought they had to defend it
 


durrington gull

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Aug 29, 2004
2,330
Worthing
I am baffled about Holla. His first few games he seemed the answer to the holding role with the added bonus that he could take a decent free kick and corner. Weren't some of Dunks goals from his delivery and he has scored from one if memory serves me well. How come he has turned into someone who now rates below JFC, Gardener, Ince and Colunga. Seems like a real waste as remember a couple of Dutch mates quite rated him!

I really cant understand the demise of Holla when you consider how poor our midfield is, surely JFC needs to be dropped and give Holla a chance and then allow Ince to push on
 




Dec 29, 2011
8,205
I am baffled about Holla. His first few games he seemed the answer to the holding role with the added bonus that he could take a decent free kick and corner. Weren't some of Dunks goals from his delivery and he has scored from one if memory serves me well. How come he has turned into someone who now rates below JFC, Gardener, Ince and Colunga. Seems like a real waste as remember a couple of Dutch mates quite rated him!

Holla is a decent player. It speaks volumes about Hyypia that he isn't starting.
 


Seagull over Canaryland

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Feb 8, 2011
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Norfolk
Last week they were arguing over who was taking the penalty and now it's free kicks. Either the players are not being told in the week or they feel they can overrule any plans once they are on the pitch. Either way it shows complete incompetence and lack of discipline.
Utter mess.

Agreed, the arguing over who would take the penalty at Norwich looked amateurish and fortunately did not put Colunga off. So it is very concerning that we replicated the squabble today and then compounded that with an embarrassing free kick.

Another aspect of concern today were various phases of play when there was a lack of formation and movement in our midfield. It was a pity to lose KLL but it then made sense to introduce Ince as Fulham were enjoying too much control in midfield. However instead of tightening things up, the trio of Gardner, JFC and Ince all played too deep and no one took responsibility for supporting the forwards, which left a 30 yard gap that Fulham happily exploited too often when our own build ups fizzled out. Why wasn't this corrected at half time? or from the touchline in the 2nd half?

Plus it is concerning that too many of our players look like strangers to each other, Bruno and Elliott Bennett come to mind. Bruno was the main culprit but Benno was guilty of being back on his heels.

For consecutive games Stockdale has 'passed' a clearance / dead ball direct to an opposing player and they have gone on to score, when Big Dave had safer options.

It's Murphy's law to then get punished by a deciding goal from such a bad deflection, but TBH Fulham were already opening us up far too comfortably.

I think 99.99% of fans would reasonably expect all of these issues to have been very clearly thrashed out on the training ground, especially the recurring and rather obvious basics. Some of these issues might be down to indiscipline by the players but ultimately the buck stops with the coaching staff. Rather embarrassing given the publicity re the recent opening of the 'elite performance centre'.

This lack of cohesion and rather erratic form cannot help confidence. Nor can having the fans on the players backs. It's not the end of the world but many fans I speak with are frustrated by the lack of conspicuous coaching from our touchline, especially positive interventions before issues actually cost us. Plus much of the good work built up over the last 2-3 seasons is being undermined. We had a mean defence, rarely let opposing teams play through us and were hard to beat, now I think they will fancy playing us.

I do wonder if Tony Bloom quietly asks himself 'WTF?' when he sees recurring faults going uncorrected and costing us dearly.
 


Bladders

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Jun 22, 2012
13,672
The Troubadour
Of topic but even when LuaLua was injured the bench had no clue or even preparing a sub.
 






Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,338
Brighton factually.....
Hyypia seemed to suggest he was frustrated that the players are not doing what they're told. I'd draw the same conclusion as you - the players have no faith in him.

Oh is this the Manager who said I want the players to not think or worry about things and just express themselves.?..

Clueless and no direction it seems.
 








sagaman

Well-known member
Dec 25, 2005
1,165
Brighton
Just to add to the gloom, the free kick from March at the end was terrible when we should have put pressure on Fulham

Agree with wish to pick Holla- we need him screening the defence in his calm manner
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Agreed, the arguing over who would take the penalty at Norwich looked amateurish and fortunately did not put Colunga off. So it is very concerning that we replicated the squabble today and then compounded that with an embarrassing free kick.

Another aspect of concern today were various phases of play when there was a lack of formation and movement in our midfield. It was a pity to lose KLL but it then made sense to introduce Ince as Fulham were enjoying too much control in midfield. However instead of tightening things up, the trio of Gardner, JFC and Ince all played too deep and no one took responsibility for supporting the forwards, which left a 30 yard gap that Fulham happily exploited too often when our own build ups fizzled out. Why wasn't this corrected at half time? or from the touchline in the 2nd half?

Plus it is concerning that too many of our players look like strangers to each other, Bruno and Elliott Bennett come to mind. Bruno was the main culprit but Benno was guilty of being back on his heels.

For consecutive games Stockdale has 'passed' a clearance / dead ball direct to an opposing player and they have gone on to score, when Big Dave had safer options.

It's Murphy's law to then get punished by a deciding goal from such a bad deflection, but TBH Fulham were already opening us up far too comfortably.

I think 99.99% of fans would reasonably expect all of these issues to have been very clearly thrashed out on the training ground, especially the recurring and rather obvious basics. Some of these issues might be down to indiscipline by the players but ultimately the buck stops with the coaching staff. Rather embarrassing given the publicity re the recent opening of the 'elite performance centre'.

This lack of cohesion and rather erratic form cannot help confidence. Nor can having the fans on the players backs. It's not the end of the world but many fans I speak with are frustrated by the lack of conspicuous coaching from our touchline, especially positive interventions before issues actually cost us. Plus much of the good work built up over the last 2-3 seasons is being undermined. We had a mean defence, rarely let opposing teams play through us and were hard to beat, now I think they will fancy playing us.

I do wonder if Tony Bloom quietly asks himself 'WTF?' when he sees recurring faults going uncorrected and costing us dearly.

Good post, it's as if the team haven't discussed and been given instructions for what happens at set pieces. Totally amateur shambles. Either the players are ignoring instructions or they haven't been given any. Either way it is a real concern as it highlights yet another weakness from the management.
 


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