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France Vs England 8pm



PILTDOWN MAN

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We look ok going forward

Shouldn't have to score 3 to not lose.

The set up and system is all wrong - we should be playing the same system style as Liverpool and Spurs - considering the majority of players come from those two and it's not far from the Chelsea and City ways.

We have the players, we have good players.

Hardly beaten a player all night any of them.
 






Beezer

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Feb 27, 2013
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If my son played for a team where the manager was that tactically astute, I would pull him out.
 


Stumpy Tim

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We look ok going forward

Shouldn't have to score 3 to not lose.

The set up and system is all wrong - we should be playing the same system style as Liverpool and Spurs - considering the majority of players come from those two and it's not far from the Chelsea and City ways.

We have the players, we have good players.

We seem to play better with a back three though. Unfortunately our defenders are utterly clueless in possession. John Stones is a laughable footballer
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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We could have been stuffed 5 or 6 tonight
 




Surf's Up

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We look ok going forward

Shouldn't have to score 3 to not lose.

The set up and system is all wrong - we should be playing the same system style as Liverpool and Spurs - considering the majority of players come from those two and it's not far from the Chelsea and City ways.

We have the players, we have good players.

They're not as good as they think they are.
 


sjamesb3466

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Jan 31, 2009
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We look ok going forward

Shouldn't have to score 3 to not lose.

The set up and system is all wrong - we should be playing the same system style as Liverpool and Spurs - considering the majority of players come from those two and it's not far from the Chelsea and City ways.

We have the players, we have good players.

We do have good players, not sure we have many/any world class players however and those who do perform in the Premier League seem incapable or unwilling in an England shirt
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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Reckon Greer is quicker than Cahill
 




Surrey Phil

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Defence has let us down again (not that it matters)

Last few games against non minnows:

Iceland - Hart mistake
Wales - Hart mistake
Scotland - Hart mistakes
Germany - poor closing down and defending
France - basic defending poor

Horrendous defensively but then it's been a problem for years and I can't see the solution but it's not Jones and Cahill in a flat back four!!!!
 


Kinky Gerbil

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We seem to play better with a back three though. Unfortunately our defenders are utterly clueless in possession. John Stones is a laughable footballer

I just said the same to Charlie about Stones - Jones is somehow worse.

I would have jagielka ahead of both of them.

Keane will hopefully get a chance when back fit.
 


Coldeanseagull

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Mar 13, 2013
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I am a staunch believer in the English Empire. I will defend my team no matter what........for this English 'team' I will make an exception . There are some there who should never be allowed near an England shirt ever again. I wouldn't say the frogs were a particularly good side, quite average with the usual histrionics. We were bloody awful and it's put me in a bad mood
 




Kinky Gerbil

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We do have good players, not sure we have many/any world class players however and those who do perform in the Premier League seem incapable or unwilling in an England shirt

I know it's a level below, but Alli has done some outrageous things this season, he never seems to do it for England - is it down to the pressure ?
 


sir albion

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Jan 6, 2007
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Christ we're shite...
To lightweight,no leadership and very disjointed amongst many other things.Poor tactics from a shite clueless manager to be frank.
If France had 9 men it would have been an even game :)
 


mikeyjh

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Dec 17, 2008
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We have the players, we have good players.

We really don't. I'd love to think we do but we're miles away from being good. We could have lost by 5,6,7 tonight even with a man advantage. We weren't able to press, even against 10 men yet the French could do it at will, that's all about technique and confidence in that technique.....
 








Kinky Gerbil

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We really don't. I'd love to think we do but we're miles away from being good. We could have lost by 5,6,7 tonight even with a man advantage. We weren't able to press, even against 10 men yet the French could do it at will, that's all about technique and confidence in that technique.....

Dier/Kane/Lallana/Walker/Tripper/Henderson/Alli/Kane/Sterling all manage to work the high press with ease at club level.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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Why the f**k do I do it. 49 years old I should know better, but no, every time I watch, I hope, I despair, I f**king despair.

Kane just said if we want to be brave, ffs lad.
 






sir albion

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I am a staunch believer in the English Empire. I will defend my team no matter what........for this English 'team' I will make an exception . There are some there who should never be allowed near an England shirt ever again. I wouldn't say the frogs were a particularly good side, quite average with the usual histrionics. We were bloody awful and it's put me in a bad mood
Disagree as thought the French looked a far better,bigger and stronger and with 10 men for 45 mins left they looked far better still and should have scored more.
We were utter tripe
 


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