Fox Hunting wa@kers

[junior]

You want to kill animals in a barbaric way for sport (not vermin control) then you should be willing to at least experience it yourselves.

Thats like saying anyone who eats meat should go and experience being electrocuted and strung up with their throat cut. Silly billy.

 

[BadFish]

Where was that? I'm never one to call somebody a liar, but i'd go as far as to say that is complete bullshit, or at least very twisted truth as i acknowledge you may have seen a hunt.

I've never ever ever heard or a hunt "smashing up half a village" and i'd suggest that if one did, they would not have the support of as much of the rural community as they do. Not to mention you should have rung the Police, i certainly would if i saw someone smashing up a village.

Hounds are socialised from puppies. They do not attack "anything furry with four legs". Most will not even be interested in rabbits.

I appreciate that many people are against foxhunting, there are many side to the argument, but coming out with comments like you just have will not do your side of the argument much good i'm afraid as pretty much everyone will read that and realise it is a load of crap.

Loving the irony.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I have studied at Plumpton college and worked at a couple of agricultural dealers,also have access to 3 farms via family connections,2 in sussex,1 indirect family in devon.

I can tell you that you would not have to go far anywhere,to find a farm,even now with no electricity,or running water and some farmers are so poor that it's amazing they even are able to feed themselves.

Yes a few do well,mainly high end cattle/sheep/pigs or arable subsidised and have other ventures on the go to supplement.

Agree very much.

 

[HovaGirl]

The main issue I have with The Countryside Alliance is they claim to stand up for the rural areas but are totally blinkered and fixated on the single issue of fox hunting. There are plenty of other issues affecting the countryside such as unemployment, affordable housing, transport, farmers being screwed for money and lack of government investment with infrastructure projects. I appreciate these are issues which now affect us all but this was going on in the boom years as well. These are things I have supported in the past and continue to do so. It's a shame those who claim to support the countryside don't do the same.

Your generalisation that people think the countryside contains only toffs in tweed is not only offensive but bizarre given that most of use have a reasonable grasp of what it's like given Brighton is surrounded by farms and fields.

Well, the big issue for the Countryside Alliance a few years ago, was foxhunting, so that would be the issue most written about in the papers and the one most associated with the Alliance. The other issues you mention are all still a serious problem. Farming is long, tiring work, which many of the new, young generation aren't interested in, preferring to work in computers, or whatever, in towns. Affordable housing is having some impact on this, because the young can't afford to rent or buy housing in their own villages, so they must either live with their parents, or go to the cheaper flats and bedsits in the towns. If they stay with their parents on the farm, there's a good chance they'll work long, hard hours, for little or no income, so farming is increasingly unappealing to the young. Like any other young, they want nights out at clubs and pubs, they want a wider world than the local pub full of their parents' friends (actually, invariably empty, these days). There are few buses to take them to the towns for clubs or shopping, so they'd rather go and live in the towns. Older farmers are often left to work the farm on their own, and when they die (because farmers can never retire), there will be no one to run the farm. Farming is increasingly less than profitable, and all the scare stories, such as foot & mouth, mad cow disease, and the new raging sheep disease often end up in the farmer having to kill his stock. Some of them turn to crops, instead, but little of that is profitable because of EU rules and regs. I believe we are slowly witnessing the death of British farming, particularly as we are also witnessing a huge surge in our population which actually needs some of that farmland for housing.

My generalisation about "toffs in tweeds" isn't my own generalisation. It's the generalisation made by many armchair commentators on newspaper forums and other such internet places.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

My parents have 20 acres in East Sussex and also don't let the hunt through their land (neither do many of their neighbours) for many of the reasons you describe here. I remember being terrified when I was a kid out on my horse and a hunt rode across the lane by our house without a care for how much they terrified my or my brother horses.

 

[Nibble]

My parents have 20 acres in East Sussex and also don't let the hunt through their land (neither do many of their neighbours) for many of the reasons you describe here. I remember being terrified when I was a kid out on my horse and a hunt rode across the lane by our house without a care for how much they terrified my or my brother horses.

They are a nuisance. I let lots of different types use my land if they respect it. There is a bronze age Cairn (burial ground) in one of the fields and I am more than happy to let New Age types on there to do whatever it is they do. They are so careful they don't even burn candles on the stones as it kills lichins! I would hate to think of the mess a hunt would make of it. Thoroughly dislikable. I spent five years on a farm and a nearby hunt got re-routed in the end, not because they were causing a huge damage problem but they were so rude to us and the farmer he got pissed off and told them to sling their hook.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I am a landowner, I have land in cornwall and next to my land is a farm. A hunt wanted to run through mine and his land. I had a long chat with the farmer and he urged against it and I agreed. We were offered quite a bit of money from them to use the land but refused. After they dropped the subject the farmer told me they ruin land, scare his beasts and once they are using your land treat you like shit. "Aside all that they are a bunch of arseholes". That is how a lot of landowners feel about hunts, including me. You lot don't know everything there is to know about the countryside, if you did you wouldn't hunt.

 

[BigGully]

I just dont trust you guy's that want to ban things, unfortunately you cannot help yourselves, you very rarely stop at wanting to impose your views on other's.

You know you could't stop at just fox hunting you would find other things to ban, you tend to think you have the moral high ground on what we should find appropriate or not.

I just find it an unattractive trait in people.

 

[Twinkle Toes]

Where was that? I'm never one to call somebody a liar, but i'd go as far as to say that is complete bullshit, or at least very twisted truth as i acknowledge you may have seen a hunt.

I've never ever ever heard or a hunt "smashing up half a village" and i'd suggest that if one did, they would not have the support of as much of the rural community as they do. Not to mention you should have rung the Police, i certainly would if i saw someone smashing up a village.

Hounds are socialised from puppies. They do not attack "anything furry with four legs". Most will not even be interested in rabbits.

I appreciate that many people are against foxhunting, there are many side to the argument, but coming out with comments like you just have will not do your side of the argument much good i'm afraid as pretty much everyone will read that and realise it is a load of crap.

The Pelhams, Hertfordshire, around 1980. Captain Barclay, Master of the Hounds (now a dead bastard).

Stitch that you f***ing arsehole.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Good farmers have dogs and are out now with the shot guns,Rabbiting and sorting out Mr Fox....

Yet all good farmers treat all animals with respect,even Mr fox if Foxy is not posing a threat he is left alone,cattle are treated with best possible care whilst in their custody,this does not mean they do not receive a whip or 2 to make them comply.

 

[HovaGirl]

I just dont trust you guy's that want to ban things, unfortunately you cannot help yourselves, you very rarely stop at wanting to impose your views on other's.

You know you could't stop at just fox hunting you would find other things to ban, you tend to think you have the moral high ground on what we should find appropriate or not.

I just find it an unattractive trait in people.

It's that old British Puritan instinct.

 

[BadFish]

I just dont trust you guy's that want to ban things, unfortunately you cannot help yourselves, you very rarely stop at wanting to impose your views on other's.

You know you could't stop at just fox hunting you would find other things to ban, you tend to think you have the moral high ground on what we should find appropriate or not.

I just find it an unattractive trait in people.

Yes we should ban everything!!!!!

To be honest I am not really that anti fox hunting (I do think it barbaric but i think many things are, so i don't do them). I just find it laughable that the pro hunt people try to tell us that they do it for any other reason than sport and socialising.

If fox hunting is okay and there is nothing wrong with it, then why do they feel the need to make excuses for it?

Did you end up getting a ban btw?

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Run of of pop corn,going to have some toast

 

[Nibble]

Where was that? I'm never one to call somebody a liar, but i'd go as far as to say that is complete bullshit, or at least very twisted truth as i acknowledge you may have seen a hunt.

I've never ever ever heard or a hunt "smashing up half a village" and i'd suggest that if one did, they would not have the support of as much of the rural community as they do. Not to mention you should have rung the Police, i certainly would if i saw someone smashing up a village.

Hounds are socialised from puppies. They do not attack "anything furry with four legs". Most will not even be interested in rabbits.

I appreciate that many people are against foxhunting, there are many side to the argument, but coming out with comments like you just have will not do your side of the argument much good i'm afraid as pretty much everyone will read that and realise it is a load of crap.

You also claim that hunting foxes with dogs is an efficient way to control their numbers. I would hardly look to you as a barometer of the truth!

 

[BadFish]

Run of of pop corn,going to have some toast

I have got a fox on a spit........would you like some of that?

I am having blood hound for desert.

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You also claim that hunting foxes with dogs is an efficient way to control their numbers. I would hardly look to you as a barometer of the truth!

To be fair to him he hasn't really claimed that..........just ignored the point over and over.

 

[HastingsSeagull]

Never seen 1 good reason FOR fox hunting. Just seems to be a jolly. Then again not a single good reason for smoking yet millions do it

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I have got a fox on a spit........would you like some of that?

I am having blood hound for desert.

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To be fair to him he hasn't really claimed that..........just ignored the point over and over.

I have grilled Tory toff on toast. Very nice but a bugger to catch, had to chase him all round the countryside before I could give him a good shoeing.

 

[Nibble]

From my experience, most farmers are far too busy to go gallavanting around the countryside in order to kill one fox. They use electric fencing, dogs and rifles to keep foxes under control and leave the poncy pursuit of hunting to the obnoxious layabouts.

 

[BadFish]

I have grilled Tory toff on toast. Very nice but a bugger to catch, had to chase him all round the countryside before I could give him a good shoeing.

Hope you took a load of your mates with you.

ah it's good fun though aint it.

Oh

I mean, good job we really have to keep their numbers down, and it's much more human that shooting the buggers.

 

[Nibble]

Never seen 1 good reason FOR fox hunting. Just seems to be a jolly. Then again not a single good reason for smoking yet millions do it

Addiction.