Frankworthington
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[Albion] Four at the back
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True. Wonder who played left back in those games...
Bang on, RB is well covered as nearly all of our defenders are right footed and we brought in Lamptey and Veltman to replace Greyhound and Montoya . . .meanwhile on the left, . . . . . errr . . . BDB was ok last season, but on a poor patch at the moment, Bong left and Bernardo was cast adrift. Great work there.
This! There seems to be a lot of people forgetting that BDB played a whole season of LB pretty well. Ideally we will get someone else in who can cover both LB and LWB, but Burn is more than capable of playing there if we need him too. Every player has poor games and Saturday's was a bit of a shocker for him, but that doesn't mean he's suddenly incapable of playing at PL level
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Agree the criticism of Burn has been over the top.
But, if we're considering playing 4-4-2, surely we need another left back. Bernardo has not kicked on as we hoped he would and I'm guessing will leave in January
Can anyone help me remember what was the deal with the Polish lad? Was he a full season loan or was he another one loaned "for he time being"? 19 was he?
In any case, i'd say there's a strong case for an experienced left back on a short term deal. Look to Cochrane, or the Polish kid for next season
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As others have pointed out, the issues for BDB really came when he had Trossard in front of him.. Even Trossard's positioning when they doubled up meant that Traore still had the option to go outside BDB . He can do a job (and surprised everyone with how well he did it last year), but its not ideal. I still think he has a role to play for us at left-sided CB (in a 3). I think Webster is far better on the right (understandably so.) I am a GP fan, but switching March and Trossard in the first half was the trigger for the issues for Dan Burn (The own goal simply not his fault) and should have been rectified at half-time before Burn was booked.
A genuine left-back to allow us to go 4-3-3 would be my "wish" - Brandon Williams on loan would be my target (hoping that the Polish lad will take that berth ultimately).
A genuine left-back to allow us to go 4-3-3 would be my "wish" - Brandon Williams on loan would be my target (hoping that the Polish lad will take that berth ultimately).
Exactly. I think most of us made him man of the match quite a few times early on in Potters reign.
The other night was a disaster, but I still feel most defenders in that position will look like a mug against a fully fit and on form Traore. Guy is an unbelievable player.
Badger Boy
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Yeah, I'm also going to throw myself into the defence of Dan Burn. I've never rated him. He poses no real threat getting forward because his one crossing setting is THUMP, he can't attack corners with any intelligence and his defensive sense is unimpressive. But last season he was constant in the team and played solidly throughout. Drip feeding him into the team, as with many others, doesn't help his form or fitness. He has been exposed more this season than last, despite only playing a handful of games and I blame the manager for that. Solly March also has very little defensive intelligence but he would at least have helped Burn defend Traore and Semedo on the Wolves right. Instead, Burn was pretty much abandoned on that side and the consequence was inevitable.
Don't blame Burn. He does what he does, for better or worse, but he could do with an actual run in the side rather than being in one minute and gone for months the next. His performance against Wolves was terrible but that's a clear outlier on his usual standards.
Don't blame Burn. He does what he does, for better or worse, but he could do with an actual run in the side rather than being in one minute and gone for months the next. His performance against Wolves was terrible but that's a clear outlier on his usual standards.
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We've a fair few whose only cross setting is "floaty keeper fodder". I think a few more thumped crosses might do us some good
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True mate. I suppose it's on the back on getting done by Saka a few days ago as well
Also remember that Traore did Dunky for the cross in 93 minute ...... and Dunky's no slouch (though no full back either), so yeh, I think to a degree you can put it down to facing a player on red hot form.
You'd expect a specialist full back to put up more of a fight. Would like to see Traore and Lamptey face off
Kalimantan Gull
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I do like the wing backs, Lamptey and March have been our most creative attacking players and our head frequently looked great. However I do have a slight issue that it becomes a very rigid formation, the two central midfielders sit deep and pass it square and never burst into the box themselves. So we are basically reliant on just the front three getting into scoring positions, and they can be nullified particularly by teams that defend deep in banks of players. To break that we need more midfielders running into the box or appearing on the flanks, but the current system doesn't really allow that.
Badger Boy
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Well, his did us no favours last season.
Machiavelli
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For a PL player, Dunk is slow.
Justice
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Has no one else noticed March is crap at defending he backs off letting the attacker cross the ball on their strongest foot. Started with Pepe last season and has continued into this season. Really crap for a so called PL defender. Doesn’t the manager say what ever you do don’t let xxxx get the ball onto his left show him down the line 
Has no one else noticed March is crap at defending he backs off letting the attacker cross the ball on their strongest foot. Started with Pepe last season and has continued into this season. Really crap for a so called PL defender. Doesn’t the manager say what ever you do don’t let xxxx get the ball onto his left show him down the line
Yes, but didn’t comment before as some would probably jump down my throat for criticising him for this.
Without double checking I believe he backed off when West Ham and Wolves scored.
Justice
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Indeed, we badly need a left back.
Just checked the highlights, West Ham first goal and the Wolves Burn OG, backed off for both.
Justice
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Every game I notice it, it’s costing us badly yet nothing seems to change do they not watch video’s of the game and give rollickings out?
No, I don't suppose they've ever thought of that ...............................
Justice
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Obviously
