Juan Albion
Chicken Sniffer 3rd Class
MYOB said:We're a net contributor to the EU, and we don't get rebates
(unlike the UK).
Why does the EU need nets?
MYOB said:We're a net contributor to the EU, and we don't get rebates
(unlike the UK).
Juan Albion said:Why does the EU need nets?
MYOB said:Thats the NDP - only partially EU funded, majority came from our exchequer. If the UK did a ten year structual plan under the same auspices, it'd be the same level of EU funding.
Mostly off our own work. The other countries that joined the EU poor - Greece and Portugal - are still poor. The ten new accession states are still poor
The EU like to tout Ireland as an example of what can happen when you join the EU. We're not. We're an example of what can happen when you have a good industrial development authority and a liberal taxation system, nothing more. We're a net contributor to the EU, and we don't get rebates (unlike the UK).
afters said:now that is just bollox...(see above)
afters said:now that is just bollox...(see above)
Simster said:
MYOB said:Just because the UK's economy didn't grow to the same scale doesn't mean you can go and claim it was the EU that assisted it. It wasn't. They've managed to brainwash lots of people into thinking it was in the hope it'll keep them in favour in an increasingly euroskeptic country - remember we rejected the last EU treaty first time around in a non-consultative referendum requiring a modification before it'd get passed.
The EU has done f*** all for this country that they didn't do for every other country thats in it. The UK has had the same 32 years of membership benefits as well as a budget contribution rebate for a lot of them.
Go on then, PM me.afters said:been a very long day.
sold an old scarf on e-bay and nowt else to do but drink....
btw sim: wedding and marathon
afters said:computer geek tries economics.
nul points.
MYOB said:Computer geek who's brother is a managment accountant who lives in a country where the media bombard us with Brussells propaganda 24/7 if they can.
Come on, prove that the EU (and its predeccesors) helped the economy here any more than it did for the UK, Denmark, Greece, Spain or Portugal - the pre-1995 "new members". You won't be able to.
The biggest driving force in Irish economic development was the Whitaker plan, which was drawn up by a middle-aged Anglo-Irish civil servant almost ten years before we joined the EEC. The only "EU" benefits we've got are those that are open to all EEA members, not just EU members.
afters said:management accountant? two-bob as dwayne would say![]()
MYOB said:I notice you've come down to the level of insults rather than trying to back up unsubstantiated claims wrt the EU. Funnily enough, eurocentric politicians usually have to resort to the very same
zefarelly said:the only obvious thing about Ireland is that its been so laid back and slow for decades its about time they actually got on with something other than being a holiday destination and retirement zone for artistes ( mostly piss artistes) so its not difficult to make itself look industrious, and I think the EU and governemet has relatively recently made the prospect of inward investment more attractive, hence the action and developement in recent years.
Smart Mart said:only a complete knob would bother arguing that Oirland hasnt done well out of the EU![]()
MYOB said:Stereotype alert! Just because the UK education system spent 200 years trying to mark the country as lazy and stupid doesn't mean it was in the slightest bit true.