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Footballers: Greedy, selfish scum







Starry

Captain Of The Crew
Oct 10, 2004
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Why is bad that not many contributed? Just because they earn 'a lot' of money doesn't mean the lesser paid in this country can expect them to donate to their pay packet.

It's crummy that those who said they would haven't paid up, but I think it's even crummier that someone went with a begging bowl to them in the first place.
 


Aug 21, 2006
1,947
Royal Arsenal
Why is bad that not many contributed? Just because they earn 'a lot' of money doesn't mean the lesser paid in this country can expect them to donate to their pay packet.

It's crummy that those who said they would haven't paid up, but I think it's even crummier that someone went with a begging bowl to them in the first place.

Hardly begging is it? Footballers get paid a huge amiunt, not their fault I know, for playing sport. Not too much to ask to give one days wages from their huge pile of cash to people who actually save lives and make a meaningful contribution to society?
 


Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
11,033
I've got mixed feelings on this one. Obviously if you've pledged money, even if it was emotionally extorted from you, you should pay up.

Christ, I'm not defending Prem footballers, they should all be much more aware of their good fortune and do more for charity and in the community.

But it's better to do choose the how and where yourself. There was something a bit distasteful about this campaign, holding a very public gun to people's heads.

You can get this kind of thing in the office for sponsored this, that and the other, and leaving presents, when you might be doing your own stuff anyway.
 


Starry

Captain Of The Crew
Oct 10, 2004
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Hardly begging is it? Footballers get paid a huge amiunt, not their fault I know, for playing sport. Not too much to ask to give one days wages from their huge pile of cash to people who actually save lives and make a meaningful contribution to society?

It's not a footballers responsibility to bail out a low-paid nurse. The fact that nurses are not paid enough is shameful. But that doesn't mean it's OK to go to high profile, well paid people and ask them for money to subsidise the nurses child care.

I had a very interesting email conversation with Noreena when this was first raised on NSC a few months ago, I tried to ask her why she thought it was OK to ask them to pay up their money to fund nurses. All she could say was "they earn more than nurses...." Uhh. Yeah.
 




hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
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Chandlers Ford
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7036953.stm

One f***ing days wages. it's bad enough that hardly any of them contributed, but the ones who pledged money are still to tight to pay.

C*nts of the highest order.

Those who agreed to pay should obviously cough up, but I do not blame those that declined.

The woman [Dr Noreena Hertz] is a fame-seeking attention whore, and the whole 'campaign' was a total shambles. Why should anybody, footballer or otherwise, be put on the spot, in front of a camera and be blackmailed into agreeing.

There are plenty of players with their own ideas about where their surplus cash should go, who don't need or want their hand forced. See Lomana Lua Lua, Linvoy Primus, etc....
 


Barrel of Fun

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And Ulises de la Cruz, Darren Moore etc.

This lady would have been advised to go after the City fat cats/city traders who earn a great deal more than a lot of the Premiership 'stars'. Whilst I agree that there are far too many footballers earning far too much, this sort of grouping of them as being all mercenaries is being taken a little too far.

Those that haven't paid are obviously taking their liberties, having agreed to the scheme, but not every player should be castigated for not signing up.

It is the government that is letting down the nurses and not the Premiership players (as a whole).
 


Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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And Ulises de la Cruz, Darren Moore etc.

This lady would have been advised to go after the City fat cats/city traders who earn a great deal more than a lot of the Premiership 'stars'..

Excellent point. How would the million-pound bonus boys feel if, as they left the bank/trading office, there was a pushy broad and a TV camera in their face saying 'Why don't you help the nurses, ya greedy f*****'? I suggest they wouldn't like it much. Footballers are easier to target.
 
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hans kraay fan club

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Indeed, and easier to sell your idea to a TV channel, too.

As I said FAME-SEEKING ATTENTION WHORE.
 


Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
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Way out west
To be fair, I believe the footballer who was most prominent in pushing this initiative to his fellow pros has now been sold by his club and left the country, none other than Thierry Henry. I would certainly agree that it should be left to the individual to decide which charities they give to, regardless of the amount they give, there are certain charities that I will always donate to and some that I politely decline...why should footballers be any different. However, regardless of the sum committed, you should always pay up if you have agreed to sponsor someone or something.
 


keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
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That programme was wank.

"I can't be bothered to learn your name, give me some money or else i'll stitch you on telly. Give my own money? f*ck off!"
 




Aug 21, 2006
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Royal Arsenal
Excellent point. How would the million-pound bonus boys feel if, as they left the bank/trading office, there was a pushy broad and a TV camera in their face saying 'Why don't you help the nurses, ya greedy f*****'? I suggest they wouldn't like it much. Footballers are easier to target.

An easy target maybe, but a very prominent target, unlike city fatcats, who are unfamiliar to most.

The point of the campaign is to highlight the plight of low paid nurses and why not use the high profile of a premiership footballer to make the government look stupid and to make people realise how badly treated they are?
 


hans kraay fan club

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Mar 16, 2005
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The more I think about that program, the annoyed I am about that stupid cow.

They built her up as this really impressive political activist, etc, then she proceeded to spend three months SIMPERING, BATTING HER EYELASHES and CRYING down the phone to Alistair Campbell.

STUPID COW.
 


Aug 21, 2006
1,947
Royal Arsenal
The more I think about that program, the annoyed I am about that stupid cow.

They built her up as this really impressive political activist, etc, then she proceeded to spend three months SIMPERING, BATTING HER EYELASHES and CRYING down the phone to Alistair Campbell.

STUPID COW.

I have to say I don't know what programme you're on about. I assume there was some sort of documentary about this campaign. All I know is what I read.

Sounds like this bint did the campaign more harm than good.

Either way, I stll think even the lowest paid premiership "star" could spare one days wages. Makes them look good and helps a good cause.
 




hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
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I have to say I don't know what programme you're on about. I assume there was some sort of documentary about this campaign. All I know is what I read.

Sounds like this bint did the campaign more harm than good.

Either way, I stll think even the lowest paid premiership "star" could spare one days wages. Makes them look good and helps a good cause.


There was no 'campaign' as such. There was a documentary featuring Dr [of SIMPERING] Hertz as she set herself 3 months to persuade each premiership footballer to give up cash. I can tell you for nothng that Noreena didn't give a flying f*** what the cause was, she just wanted the attention.

Her campaign strategy was to say 'Mwa' and 'Ciao' a lot into her expensive mobile phone, and hope that somebody else would facilitate the introductions that she did f*** all about trying to arrange for herself. In the end Alistair Campbell did all the work for her, getting her in front of the various squads, so that she could simper and bat her eyelashes at them, and spell out her extensive reasoning "Please give me some money 'cos the nurses have it hard, please thank you".

Pile of shit program.
Pile of shit campaign.
And yes, as you suggest, she did far more harm that good.
 


maffew

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Dec 10, 2003
9,019
Worcester England
I have to say I don't know what programme you're on about. I assume there was some sort of documentary about this campaign. All I know is what I read.

Sounds like this bint did the campaign more harm than good.

Either way, I stll think even the lowest paid premiership "star" could spare one days wages. Makes them look good and helps a good cause.


yeah but they they probably get requests for handouts nearly every day, so most have a policy of just giving to their own designated charity and nothing else. cant give to all the people all the time

I think Giggsys mum for example was a nurse so maybe he felt compelled to give. Up to the individual really, dont think naming and shaming has done her any favours
 


keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
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SOUTHGATE BLOCKS DONATION
Posted 11/10/07 11:20EmailPrintSave



Middlesbrough manager Gareth Southgate has blocked his club's donation to a nursing charity's fundraising campaign saying it "bordered on blackmail".

The nurses' hardship campaign urged top-flight stars to donate a day's pay to the cause but then highlighted on its website players who had given money, after figures showed the fund had reached just a fifth of its planned £1million target.

Southgate said that effectively "named and shamed" players who had not donated.

After initially pledging a donation on behalf of the Teesside club, the Boro boss has now pulled the plug.

He has stopped the donation to the Mayday for Nurses Hardship Fund and launched a bitter attack on the organisers of the fund, which was set up to provide help for nurses in financial trouble.

He hit out at organiser Dr Noreena Hertz for publicising benefactors who contributed to the fund.

Dr Hertz launched the fund at the end of last season with the aim of raising £1million by asking all Premier League players to donate a day's wages.

Southgate said players did a lot for charity all year round, without publicity, and did not deserve criticism.

The former England international took over as manager at the Riverside Stadium last June when former boss Steve McClaren was appointed England manager.

Southgate said that while the hardship fund was a worthwhile cause it was "outrageous" the way the campaign was being conducted through the public eye.

Trouble flared after organisers said only £200,000 had been collected from the £1million pledged since the campaign was launched at the end of last season.

A national newspaper then listed every Premier League club and detailed which players had given money, using information from the Mayday For Nurses Hardship Fund website.

The list showed that while no individual Boro players had donated, the club was making a contribution to the fund.

Southgate said: "I am disgusted with the manner in which this campaign has gone about its fundraising.

"Mayday for Nurses is a worthy cause, but there are many others.

"The players at this club support any number of local and national charities and good causes, either via financial support, giving up their own time or both.

"This is often done privately, meaning they neither receive nor ask for any public gratitude or praise.

"We invited Dr Hertz into the club to hear her appeal but we were already concerned by the way in which those who had not agreed to donate a day's salary had been named and shamed in the national media.

"I think it's outrageous that the campaign's fundraising style has bordered on blackmail, with the message being basically 'give us your money or we'll publicly shame you'.

"It's a strange way for a charity to act and one that has ensured that, although I had originally intended to make a donation, I have now withdrawn that promise."

The Royal College of Nursing (RCN) Union, which is administering the fund, said it could not comment on the publicity around the fund, or the fact that names of benefactors had been released on the website.

A spokesman said the RCN was not responsible for either the publicity or website content.

Of the campaign in general, he added: "Although the actual level of donations received has yet to meet expectations based on initial pledges, the Mayday campaign has successfully raised a substantial sum of money, which will allow the RCN to help hundreds of nurses in financial hardship."

Dr Hertz, a political economist and campaigner, was not available to comment on the row.

Nobody at the Professional Footballers Association (PFA) was available to comment.
 








nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
14,533
Manchester
This campaign targetting footballers only is out of order, especially when you consider that there are plenty of people earning as much as the average premiership player, and that a lot of players already do a fair amount of relatively unpublicised work for charidee.

For those who have criticised them, work out what 1 day's earnings is for you (I was surprised at mine), and then decide whether you would give that amount to a single charity that you had no particular affinity with.
 


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