[Football] Football rumour - Erik ten Hag will be sacked at end of season

[Han Solo]

I have no idea what kind of man Erik ten Hag was before coming to Manchester but I can't imagine, with the success he had in Ajax, that he was the same desperate miserable bloke he is now.

Its a trap. Everyone leaves United with a horrible reputation. No one under 65 should even consider taking it.

I'm sure Potter (Harry or Graham) would have been interested this summer, but I struggle to see Graham taking over another team without getting a pre-season with them. Apparently Chelsea stop paying him in October and then he'll take charge of the England team, imo. United will go and look for someone a bit more desperate.

What feels certain is that ETH won't survive the season.

 

[crodonilson]

What feels certain is that ETH won't survive the seaso

Who next then Hans??

 

[Han Solo]

Who next then Hans??

Think they're going with a British manager next. Gareth Southgate or Wayne Rooney would be fun, but maybe Michael Carrick is where I'd put my money.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

The Munich factor was huge. It was before my time but it was still being talked about 10 years later. My dad wasn't a Utd fan but spoke in reverent terms of that team.

I think there was also the Manchester factor. Liverpool had become the cultural capital of England and Manchester could be seen as the sporting capital (even though Everton were a pretty useful team). And Best was a phenomenon. If you're under 50, you have no concept of Best the player, you probably think of him as a champion shagger and drunk but, boy, could he play. He definitely made Utd the glamour club

I assume that's a Royal 'you'. Oh, to be under 50. Indeed, oh, to be under 60.

Yes, they (well, Best) were total glamour, but ironically this was most resonant after the European cup win, and after Peak Beatles. And, Best aside, the rest of the United team were postwar squares, with the same hair styles as their dads. But you are right. Our parents' generation definitely had a reverence for the Busby babes.

One thing that was becoming a thing once I got to secondary school, aged 11 in 1969, was the 'following' of clubs in the first division. It was all very much a thing of the moment though, with Leeds, Chelsea and Liverpool being the go-to clubs. Not so much ManU. Maybe that sort of thing took hold properly in the 70s. I was a Leeds fan for quite a few years (ahem).

I would say that the national ManU worship had not really started in the early 70s. Nobody went on about the fact they hadn't won anything since the European cup. And yet.....by the 80s (when United still hadn't won the league for ages) you started to see the emergence of cockney reds.

So by the time Fergie SAF started winning in 91, the lifelong United fan from Plymouth was a 'thing'. I guess increasing availability of armchair football helped facilitate this.

(Fie upon them).

 

[raymondo]

I have no idea what kind of man Erik ten Hag was before coming to Manchester but I can't imagine, with the success he had in Ajax, that he was the same desperate miserable bloke he is now.

Its a trap. Everyone leaves United with a horrible reputation. No one under 65 should even consider taking it.

I'm sure Potter (Harry or Graham) would have been interested this summer, but I struggle to see Graham taking over another team without getting a pre-season with them. Apparently Chelsea stop paying him in October and then he'll take charge of the England team, imo. United will go and look for someone a bit more desperate.

What feels certain is that ETH won't survive the season.

Certainly feels that way - will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[oldboyroy]

Next up for them after the break is saints away. Think they have to win that 1 (although I think they will).

 

[Guinness Boy]

I have no idea what kind of man Erik ten Hag was before coming to Manchester but I can't imagine, with the success he had in Ajax, that he was the same desperate miserable bloke he is now.

Its a trap. Everyone leaves United with a horrible reputation. No one under 65 should even consider taking it.

I'm sure Potter (Harry or Graham) would have been interested this summer, but I struggle to see Graham taking over another team without getting a pre-season with them. Apparently Chelsea stop paying him in October and then he'll take charge of the England team, imo. United will go and look for someone a bit more desperate.

What feels certain is that ETH won't survive the season.

Everyone leaves United with a horrible reputation because Sir Alex still looks over everything that club does. They need to cancel his season ticket. It’s still his club.

 

[Pavilionaire]

I think one of the things that must be hard to take for United fans is that they've just been dismantled by a Liverpool side who are no longer managed by Klopp.

It's easy to rationalise why they are not contending for the Prem title when the likes of Citeh and Liverpool were coached by Pep and Klopp, but this was Ten Hag vs Slot - a pair who had previously faced each other on a number of occasions in Dutch football with - I believe - 3 wins apiece.

United weren't even competitive, and that is on Ten Hag.

He doesn't realise that a League Cup and an FA Cup cannot paper over the cracks of being so far off the pace in the title race. Indeed, that League Cup was achieved with 3 home draws followed by Forest over 2 legs in the semi and a lacklustre Newcastle in the Final who always lose at Wembley, while the FA Cup win was achieved only after VAR overturned arguably what would have been the biggest shock winning comeback goal in FA Cup history vs Coventry.

Man Utd will not make a dent on the title race while this fella is in charge.

 

[Jim in the West]

I think one of the things that must be hard to take for United fans is that they've just been dismantled by a Liverpool side who are no longer managed by Klopp.

It's easy to rationalise why they are not contending for the Prem title when the likes of Citeh and Liverpool were coached by Pep and Klopp, but this was Ten Hag vs Slot - a pair who had previously faced each other on a number of occasions in Dutch football with - I believe - 3 wins apiece.

United weren't even competitive, and that is on Ten Hag.

He doesn't realise that a League Cup and an FA Cup cannot paper over the cracks of being so far off the pace in the title race. Indeed, that League Cup was achieved with 3 home draws followed by Forest over 2 legs in the semi and a lacklustre Newcastle in the Final who always lose at Wembley, while the FA Cup win was achieved only after VAR overturned arguably what would have been the biggest shock winning comeback goal in FA Cup history vs Coventry.

Man Utd will not make a dent on the title race while this fella is in charge.

All points that the highly paid leadership team at United must have considered. But then chose to extend his contract!

 

[Change at Barnham]

Disappointing result yesterday for the many Sussex based United fans. As Ten Hag said after the game though 'I'm not Harry Potter'. At least they have the stability of his presence after signing a 12 month extension to his current contract in the summer. For the good of United and indeed the EPL lets hope they start to turn a corner soon.

Come on Manchester you can do it, you're everyone's second team.
Football isn't the same without a winning Man U.
Up the Red Devils!

 

[Nigella's Cream Pie]

I am 66 and never quite understood how ManU became the darling club of England.

It seems it was a combination of Munich, Bobby Charlton winning the world cup, Georgie Best winning the European Cup and being the fifth Beatle, and a media with nothing much to talk about latching onto ManU and their glamour, because of all the above.

And then SAF made ManU what the media wanted and loved, the biggest club in the world.

You seem to have understood!

 

[OzMike]

Same rumour for every season he has been there, wouldn't be the same without it.

 

[WhingForPresident]

Fairplay to the journo there, rinsed him and made him look a right bellend.

As HS says, he's probably a perfectly nice guy; this job has done it to him where he comes out with this utter nonsense to appease the fans (see his press conference after we beat them last week).

 

[WhingForPresident]

Everyone leaves United with a horrible reputation because Sir Alex still looks over everything that club does. They need to cancel his season ticket. It’s still his club.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Fergie is still 'making his opinions known' to the management.

 

[bhafc99]

The

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Fergie is still 'making his opinions known' to the management.

The ‘Fergie sat in the Directors Box every game’ thing is wierd. Imagine if, I dunno, Poyet was sat there next to Tony Bloom every Albion game, tutting and shaking his head at the slightest misplaced pass. The guy should feck off out of the picture and go play golf or something.

 

[Gwylan]

The

The ‘Fergie sat in the Directors Box every game’ thing is wierd. Imagine if, I dunno, Poyet was sat there next to Tony Bloom every Albion game, tutting and shaking his head at the slightest misplaced pass. The guy should feck off out of the picture and go play golf or something.

There was a bit of a furore when Shankly left Liverpool. He used to turn up at the training ground until he was banned. There was a big row in the press about how badly a loyal servant had been treated and Everton made it clear that he was welcome there. In retrospect, Liverpool did the right thing but they got slated for it at the time

 

[jcdenton08]

It’s just classic top club - and most failing clubs for that matter - mentality. It’s a hell of a lot cheaper to change the coach and his team than it is to change an entire squad of uninterested, underpaid and overrated footballers. Or be Chelsea and do both

Look at Spurs: they’ve had 15 head coaches (12 permanent) since they’ve won anything - which was a League Cup in 2007-2008 under Juande Ramos, himself considered a failure. Sometimes a club is just rotten with a losing mentality, no matter how much they spend or whatever top head coach they bring in.

Look at Mourinho, did a FANTASTIC job at Manchester United with a poor, aging side. Won trophies, got them in the Top 4 somehow. But no, not good enough for them despite his overachievement. Similar story at Spurs, watch the documentary - EVERYTHING he said was absolutely true.

So yeah, go ahead, sack the coach. Again. Have a little boost and another false dawn. Then watch as this new miracle head coach fails to get a tune out of a completely overrated and uninterested Rashford, Sancho, Maguire et al, as they quietly collect their approximate £800k p/w between them.

 

[bhafc99]

an entire squad of uninterested, underpaid and overrated footballers.

#prayforrashford #costoflivingcrisis #findyourlocalfoodbank

 

[raymondo]

Fergie would have banned that journo from his pressers

 

[wardy wonder land]

looking and reading about the Manu v liv game - Slot was able to get his team to modify the tatics "in game" to dominate Manu weaknesses - nothat could be the team willingness to respond to a new coach, but ETH cannot get a tune out of the bloated MU squad - and that is only going to be a short term gain with a new coach

MU are finished, need a new batch of youth teamer to come thru (they dont have that) or buy a new squad -FFP will not let them

they will struggle in europe and in the league - coach change in nov / dec big spend in Jan and finish bottom half.............

Thn wait for all the FFP rules to change so they can spend again to get out of trouble