[News] Food Poverty figures in Worthing

[Neville's Breakfast]

Well then the answer is rent caps. I'd take that.

You beat me to it ! I was adding exactly that to my post when you answered.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Not funny old boy, even by your own high comedic standards.

It wasn't meant to be funny just stating the truth, a sad state of affairs wouldnt you agree ?

Regards
DF

 

[PeterOut]

Well then the answer is rent caps. I'd take that.

And yet - as much as I am instinctively in support of the idea, it apparently does not always work as welll as you (and I) would want it to -

From the BBC today https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58317555

 

[1066familyman]

Clearly there IS charity in Germany, but we give over 3 times as much as they do, per head (and 5 times as much as France).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_charitable_donation

We rely far too much on charity donations here, primarily because Conservative governments don't tend to do sensible taxation.

I wonder how much more we rely on volunteers too, rather than training people up and paying a living wage?

 

[Randy McNob]

Well then the answer is rent caps. I'd take that.

Well rent caps were put forward by opposition parties as well as other measures like mansion taxes. But all these things that would help, albeit a little, to solve these problems are labelled as socialism and the public have been endemically poisoned to reject any such measures by the billionaire owned media machine and instead support plutocracy

 

[zefarelly]

all the more painful where there are sites, that they are resisted.

It's not that simple . . . An issue is, the space vacated which could be redeveloped is not always suitable ( contamination , although thats mostly bollocks!) but is mostly ex industrial . . . Hence complications . . . And the biggest issue for numerous reasons is IF you replace a factory that employed 200 with housing for 1000 . . . .cuethe planning backhanders and cushion of a council tax income bonus . . . What about the infrastructure . . . . You wonder about schools, Dr's and all the other things . . . . . Towns are at breaking point . . . . . Privatised utilities, like water are still profiting, whilst pumping shit in the sea . . . .because they're overloaded with our shit . . . Twice the population. . . . . And where are all these people working . . . . When Shoreham beach was built largely in the 50's/60's it was half industry, a perfect life/work balance with a proportionate population . . . Look at it now . . . An exploding cesspit any day, with double the population, a bottle neck of disastrous proportions if someone sharts!

Quite clearly its immigrants that caused this, since 1992, before that it was thatcher, she started it.

 

[rigton70]

Typical nasty bollocks straight out of the neo-liberal Daily Mail reading party playbook. Food is "cheaper" based on average income, but that doesn't mean there isn't an underclass who struggles to afford it.

I'd also challenge the idea that anyone "poor" shouldn't own a mobile or access to the internet in the modern world, seriously ?

It used to be six kids, three fathers and a wide screen TV, but now you've lowered it to a telephone and a cheap data plan.

I do not read the Daily Mail.

Challenge all you like but if people cut that expense they would be a little richer.

And i said other shite in life.

 

[The Clamp]

I know plenty of people who have sold phones, televisions and other kit to be able to feed their kids.

Access to the internet, even if that is just on a cheap smart phone could mean the difference between staying sane or going over the edge. Single mother of three on an estate miles from friends or family? Is it really too much to allow her to whatsapp her Mum or mates? Or is she expected to sit night after night at the kitchen table counting her food vouchers and punishing herself for not trying harder. If you want to make sure someone spends all their income on alcohol, that's quite an effective way to go about it.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I know plenty of people who have sold phones, televisions and other kit to be able to feed their kids.

Access to the internet, even if that is just on a cheap smart phone could mean the difference between staying sane or going over the edge. Single mother of three on an estate miles from friends or family? Is it really too much to allow her to whatsapp her Mum or mates? Or is she expected to sit night after night at the kitchen table counting her food vouchers and punishing herself for not trying harder. If you want to make sure someone spends all their income on alcohol, that's quite an effective way to go about it.

How about contacting the fathers to see if they could spare a few Bob
Regards
DF

 

[The Clamp]

How about contacting the fathers to see if they could spare a few Bob
Regards
DF

Not an unreasonable question. There’s not one cover-all answer but some reasons include the parent being authority adverse so they won’t approach a court to get maintenance, they may be incapable of filling out the forms, afraid of retribution from a violent ex-partner or afraid of facing the father in court. The father may be in prison, have no income, dead, evasive, uncooperative.
Many, many reasons.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Not an unreasonable question. There’s not one cover-all answer but some reasons include the parent being authority adverse so they won’t approach a court to get maintenance, they may be incapable of filling out the forms, afraid of retribution from a violent ex-partner or afraid of facing the father in court. The father may be in prison, have no income, dead, evasive, uncooperative.
Many, many reasons.

No, no, no , we know the types that are happy to open their legs then hold their hands out for
a government hand out and also claim how hard done by they are ,the sperm donors need to be held to account not the tax payer

Regards
DF

 

[Simster]

No, no, no , we know the types that are happy to open their legs then hold their hands out for
a government hand out and also claim how hard done by they are ,the sperm donors need to be held to account not the tax payer

Regards
DF

There are undoubtedly people like that. The problem is that you are suggesting that the majority of food poverty problems are caused by people like that. They aren't. Don't take my word for it - do your own research.

 

[The Clamp]

No, no, no , we know the types that are happy to open their legs then hold their hands out for
a government hand out and also claim how hard done by they are ,the sperm donors need to be held to account not the tax payer

Regards
DF

I’m sorry you feel that way. In any welfare system, there’ll always be some people who play it. But that is the price we pay for having a safety net that works for the majority that need it.
I’m far more concerned about already very wealthy people dodging tax and fiddling expenses than someone with barely any money diddling a bit off the state to feed themselves. And if they get a beer and a pack of smokes out of it? Give a ****. I hope it brings them a few moments enjoyment to be honest.

 

[SK1NT]

I’m sorry you feel that way. In any welfare system, there’ll always be some people who play it. But that is the price we pay for having a safety net that works for the majority that need it.
I’m far more concerned about already very wealthy people dodging tax and fiddling expenses than someone with barely any money diddling a bit off the state to feed themselves. And if they get a beer and a pack of smokes out of it? Give a ****. I hope it brings them a few moments enjoyment to be honest.

This... It's no coincidence that billionaire owning media tycoons are trying to get us to punch down rather than up.

Single mums, social security scammers however you define the have nots do not even scrape the barrel of the large sums of cash that the super rich avoid, but lets just continue to doff our caps and tug our forelocks to them whilst continuing to kick the poor. Humanity baffles me. Must be because they are an easy target.

 

[SK1NT]

Yes, you are right. There is little point arguing about who owns the existing stock, except to say that perhaps those who are sympathetic to right-wing market economics would do well to admit that those policies created the problem in large part. Letting people buy council owned houses at a massive discount without replacing that stock has been a disaster.

So why doesn't more housing stock ever get built? Well the answer is simple - home owners tend to vote Tory, but building more houses in the vicinity of those people tends to upset those very same people. Therefore, the Tories do nothing for fear of upsetting their core support - they are like rabbits caught in headlights.

The one positive to dwindling home ownership..... less tory voters in future. I am sure they will still some how manage to hood wink the poor into voting for them.

 

[Worthingite]

In my opinion, roofs over peoples heads should never be considered an "investment" opportunity. I live in Worthing, have rented a place for the past 4 years and I've just worked out that in that time I've paid aprox £36k in rent for a one bedroom flat. I COULD afford to buy at that price (approx £750 a month), but the hurdles that are put in place to get a mortgage for low and medium income earners are such that it is impossible. And, even if you can scrape together a deposit and find a mortgage, you're constantly trying to bid against buy to letters who have deeper pockets than you and outbid you. It's a bit of a shitshow in this country and things DO need to change

 

[dsr-burnley]

The one positive to dwindling home ownership..... less tory voters in future. I am sure they will still some how manage to hood wink the poor into voting for them.

Why is it such a common thing nowadays to assume anyone who disagrees with their own opinion, must be stupid?

 

[Whoislloydy]

8.4m across the whole of the UK. Not sure how Worthing shapes up as a percentage as I dont know what the population is these days but it does seem very high to me, and you are right, very sad.

16,000 people out of a total population of 110,000 is 14.5%

8.4m of 66.6m is about 12.7%

So higher than the UK average.

 

[sydney]

This... It's no coincidence that billionaire owning media tycoons are trying to get us to punch down rather than up.

Single mums, social security scammers however you define the have nots do not even scrape the barrel of the large sums of cash that the super rich avoid, but lets just continue to doff our caps and tug our forelocks to them whilst continuing to kick the poor. Humanity baffles me. Must be because they are an easy target.

Fox News being hauled over the coals by the ABC's Sara Ferguson ......fox empire being litigated for 5-6 billion USD for electoral fraud miss information , hopefully will spell the end for the vile *******.

 

[sydney]

In my opinion, roofs over peoples heads should never be considered an "investment" opportunity. I live in Worthing, have rented a place for the past 4 years and I've just worked out that in that time I've paid aprox £36k in rent for a one bedroom flat. I COULD afford to buy at that price (approx £750 a month), but the hurdles that are put in place to get a mortgage for low and medium income earners are such that it is impossible. And, even if you can scrape together a deposit and find a mortgage, you're constantly trying to bid against buy to letters who have deeper pockets than you and outbid you. It's a bit of a shitshow in this country and things DO need to change

can only wonder what the flats will cost in the gas works development near beach house park........no on site parking ....worthing council are a brain dead bunch.