[Albion] Flasks banned from the Amex

[Green Cross Code Man]

Do you carry sandwiches and cakes in your rear?

Lololololol!

 

[dazzer6666]

Annoying as it is, I'm sure Mr Barber or any of the board have decided in isolation to ban metal containers.

They would be acting on advice, advice which obviously they can choose to ignore or not.

From memory an atmosphere of increased security started after the Rugby world cup.

To me banning a flask just seems consistent with general security of banning aerosols for instance. With the higher profile of the club (and very high profile visitors and TV coverage) I suspect laptops will be next.

I just hope football continually review it and a flask doesn't become something else oddly banned by football clubs. Bins disappeared from Railway stations for years, but are now back albeit as a see through bag.

Oddly banned:

Cameras - When most people have a sophisticated one capable of taking HD video on their phone.

Aerosols - Football supporters obviously more inclined to use them as DIY flame throwers than other members of society.

Bottle Tops ( returned ) - Anyone remember the ridiculous few games at the Withdean when you were only allowed to bring in a bottle of water if the top was removed by the stewards ?

Oddly not banned.

Perfume. If banned in a large bottle by the airlines, why not football ground ?

Coins. The hooligan weapon of choice.

Large Bags. You can hide all sorts of things in a bag if it isn't going to be passed through an X Ray machine.




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Removing bottle tops isn't unusual at all - seen this at several stadiums/venues, for both football and music. Quite easy to conceal a spare though

 

[BensGrandad]

Do you carry sandwiches and cakes in your rear?

I take 2 sandwiches in 1 each for both myself and my brother in law because (a) I dont like the food on offer in the concourses (b) I cannot afford to buy 2 pies even if they were good. ( when leaving the ground it is 2 hours before we get home meaning a round journey of approx 7 to 8 hours and due to the times of buses etc it doesnt allow time to stop and buy ftom a chippy etc.in town.

 

[el punal]

I can’t be arsed to read 30 pages of this so will someone enlighten me as to whether the stewards were given the wrong instructions regarding the taking in of flasks, or has someone from the club failed to notify fans in advance about the ban. The only communique I’ve received from the club is that the ban only applies to Dick’s Bar and the 1901 lounges.

If the ban is universal then it buggers up my strategy of having a glass of vintage port and Stilton at halftime.

 

[twowheelsbest]

I emailed Paul Barber and this was his very quick response, clarifies the issue somewhat:


Dear Richard

Our decision not to allow flasks, (glass or metal bottles) in to the stadium from the Fulham match onwards has been taken for safety and security reasons. We regularly review all of our security procedures and this new policy is in line with many other football stadia, including that of Sunday’s visitors. Other stadia have already taken steps to stop bags, laptops and other items of luggage being brought in to the stadium - frankly, this an ongoing process to mitigate risk and eliminate it where it is possible or practical to do so.

We are regularly told that not all of our supporters receive or read electronic communications from the club so we decided to communicate directly with as many supporters as possible, particularly those carrying flasks to yesterday's game, so that that as many fans as possible received the information ahead of our next home game. I’m surprised to hear anyone was rude while delivering the message but we will reinforce this face to face communication with further information through the club's website and social media channels leading up to the Fulham game when the new policy will be fully implemented.

Finally, please be assured that the club's finances will not be transformed by expecting people to purchase their hot drinks from us - and neither will the queues change dramatically if they did! The club has a responsibility to ensure the safest possible environment for all supporters. We are well aware that, for most fans, a flask is a means of bringing a hot drink to the game. Sadly, in the current environment, others may use such items in a different way. Our job is to limit, minimise and, ideally, eliminate as many risks as we can.

Regards, Paul


Paul Barber
Chief Executive
T: +44 (0)1273 878 249
F: +44 (0)1273 878 238
M: +44 (0)7500 171004
E: paul.barber@bhafc.co.uk


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[Green Cross Code Man]

I can’t be arsed to read 30 pages of this so will someone enlighten me as to whether the stewards were given the wrong instructions regarding the taking in of flasks, or has someone from the club failed to notify fans in advance about the ban. The only communique I’ve received from the club is that the ban only applies to Dick’s Bar and the 1901 lounges.

If the ban is universal then it buggers up my strategy of having a glass of vintage port and Stilton at halftime.

Just read the OP. Nothing has changed.

 

[BensGrandad]

I emailed Paul Barber and this was his very quick response, clarifies the issue somewhat:


Dear Richard

Our decision not to allow flasks, (glass or metal bottles) in to the stadium from the Fulham match onwards has been taken for safety and security reasons. We regularly review all of our security procedures and this new policy is in line with many other football stadia, including that of Sunday’s visitors. Other stadia have already taken steps to stop bags, laptops and other items of luggage being brought in to the stadium - frankly, this an ongoing process to mitigate risk and eliminate it where it is possible or practical to do so.

We are regularly told that not all of our supporters receive or read electronic communications from the club so we decided to communicate directly with as many supporters as possible, particularly those carrying flasks to yesterday's game, so that that as many fans as possible received the information ahead of our next home game. I’m surprised to hear anyone was rude while delivering the message but we will reinforce this face to face communication with further information through the club's website and social media channels leading up to the Fulham game when the new policy will be fully implemented.

Finally, please be assured that the club's finances will not be transformed by expecting people to purchase their hot drinks from us - and neither will the queues change dramatically if they did! The club has a responsibility to ensure the safest possible environment for all supporters. We are well aware that, for most fans, a flask is a means of bringing a hot drink to the game. Sadly, in the current environment, others may use such items in a different way. Our job is to limit, minimise and, ideally, eliminate as many risks as we can.

Regards, Paul


Paul Barber
Chief Executive
T: +44 (0)1273 878 249
F: +44 (0)1273 878 238
M: +44 (0)7500 171004
E: paul.barber@bhafc.co.uk


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Again it says as per Ask The Club glass or metal bottles but would assume that plastic is covered in the flasks pre brackets.

 

[Hillian1]

Jesus wept.

This.

 

[BensGrandad]

PB obviously has this saved on his phone to answer any e mails that he gets as it is word for word the same as Paul Camilin posted on Ask The Club which somebody suggested at the time was a PB letter.

 

[el punal]

Just read the OP. Nothing has changed.

I just have, hence my comment about it being “official club policy”. Another poster has now kindly produced a copy of a letter from Paul Barber detailing the reasons why the ban is being implemented. The explanation being that it is a security issue rather than that of of the club trying to increase sales of beverages by banning fans bringing in their own brews.

On that basis that seems fair enough.

 

[El Presidente]

If I was a Palace fan feeling hacked off at seeing my team lose last night and the Albion win on Sunday, this thread would have cheered me up no end.

 

[beorhthelm]

I emailed Paul Barber and this was his very quick response, clarifies the issue somewhat:

its the same reply as previously given and doesnt answer anything. if the claim is that a falsk may be used to smuggle in a nefarious material/device, then so would a coke can, plastic water bottle, or wrapped up in a copy of "ISILToday" in the bottom of a bag for all the good the security checks are. same applies to the threat of them being used as a weapon or missile.

 

[dazzer6666]

PB obviously has this saved on his phone to answer any e mails that he gets as it is word for word the same as Paul Camilin posted on Ask The Club which somebody suggested at the time was a PB letter.

As would anyone else expecting a multitude of whiny emails that can be answered with the same reply.

 

[dazzer6666]

Someone has created a petition

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/removing-the-rules-on-flasks-at-the-amex

FFS.

'A flask at football is a right of passage........'

 

[Hiney]

Sometimes I think the club deliberately look for confrontation!

Sometimes, I think the hordes of bedwetting snowflakes who seize on every opportunity to stick the knife into the club/Barber, deliberately look for confrontation.

Especially over an issue that, while a slight inconvenience to a small minority of fans, is a logical thing to expect the club to do.

Oh well.

 

[dazzer6666]

Sometimes, I think the hordes of bedwetting snowflakes who seize on every opportunity to stick the knife into the club/Barber, deliberately look for confrontation.

Especially over an issue that, while a slight inconvenience to a small minority of fans, is a logical thing to expect the club to do.

Oh well.

Brace yourself for a flaming now......20 more pages

 

[clapham_gull]

its the same reply as previously given and doesnt answer anything. if the claim is that a falsk may be used to smuggle in a nefarious material/device, then so would a coke can, plastic water bottle, or wrapped up in a copy of "ISILToday" in the bottom of a bag for all the good the security checks are. same applies to the threat of them being used as a weapon or missile.

I think the threat (perceived or not) is the material most flasks are made from and it's nature as a metal container.

These days flasks come in all shapes and sizes and I've got a food one that it not dissimilar in shape to a small pressure cooker.

I don't agree with the ban (I could take a flame thrower on the tube) but it should be obvious that the "risk" is regarding what a flask could be adapted to be rather than what could be "smuggled" inside.






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[BensGrandad]

It is not so much only the banning of flasks but the pathetic reasoning given and treating us all as if we are idiots to not realise the correct reason. REVENUE.

 

[carlzeiss]

I have never understood why some folks drink tea from a metal flask as it just doesn't taste as good as it does from a plastic one .
Perhaps those with the metal flasks are actually smuggling in alcohol into the stadium .

BTW while waiting at lewes railway station before the first Palace fixture at the Amex stadium I noticed a chap holding a 2l Coke bottle , with a young child .
However it was obvious that the contents had been replaced with either larger or cider .
I guessed he was hoping to sneak it into the ground as a soft drink bottle .
No great surprise when I noticed that under his black bomber jacket , a red and blue shirt was visible .

 

[clapham_gull]

Also banned alongside other forms of cutlery including whisks.

I was hoping to find the clip from Bellamy's people where the ex-con (played by Simon Day) tells the audience that "everything in prison is a weapon, including a naan bread."

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